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by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: authorship of the Pauline epistles

What evidence is there that we actually have "authentic" or "genuine" epistles of Paul?
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Diatessaron a Misnomer? The Evidence of Ephrem's Commentary
Replies: 8
Views: 14968

Re: Diatessaron a Misnomer? The Evidence of Ephrem's Commen

Could you extract the argument you want us to understand here, for our sake? So far, it's a mess.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistl

Mark Goodacre has a blog post about relative chronology of the Pauline epistles , focusing particularly on the mentions of the collection in Galatians, 1 Cor, 2 Cor, and Romans. Assuming the letters to be genuine, the collection to be historical, and the letter of 1 Corinthians to be written while t...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

The word for idol's temple in 8:10 is quite different from the word for temple in 9:13 it is not a parallel. I agree that hIERON could be used for a pagan temple. But I would be surprised to see ThUSIASTHRION altar used of a pagan altar. Thanks for this. I hadn't looked into it much at all, or I mi...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistles
Replies: 31
Views: 60259

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

Bernard Muller wrote:Anyway, my initial posting was about evidence of an earthly human Jesus in the Pauline epistles and Hebrews.
Fixed it for you.
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Corinthians and the Temple Cult
Replies: 18
Views: 33058

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

Thanks for this argument, Andrew. I'd like to reiterate that I do not know whether the Pauline epistles are genuine. So far, I was just arguing against the idea (based on an argument presented here above) that they couldn't be genuine and after 70 AD. It has nothing to do with "wishes," as...
by Peter Kirby
Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

Josephus did not say what you want him to say. Jerusalem was inhabited after 70 AD. Besides a Roman legion in a camp, some old men and a few women: You call that inhabited? Not only did Josephus not say what you want him to say, Josephus cannot say what you want him to say, due to the time period i...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

But Hegesippus is full of problems. I am not supporting Bernard's contentions but of all the early sources this is the one which has the most problems attached to it. Firstly his name. Yes there was an archaic Greek name 'Hegesippus' but it is hard to imagine an Ebionite or Jewish Christian adoptin...
by Peter Kirby
Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What You Do To Peter You Must Do To Paul: the forgery question
Replies: 60
Views: 99364

Re: The Dating, Authorship, and Meaning of the Pauline Epist

Peter, I would trust Josephus (who was an eyewitness) much better than Eusebius about the status of Jerusalem after 70. Josephus did not say what you want him to say. Jerusalem was inhabited after 70 AD. Anyway, Eusebius also told that right before the siege of Jerusalem, all members of the church ...