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- Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:38 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 73
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Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Sorry. The author of this sentence means: "The word naked-men (γυμνοὶ is plural ) you wrote is wrong. Instead you should write -of the naked man- (γυμνῷ singular dative). And the other things you did write cannot be found (this could also be: the others things you did write do not exist anywhe...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 73
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Re: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
From what I see in the photo of the text above, Tselikas got it right and Morton Smith wrong. There is no "naked man to naked man" in the text. The authors of this text corrects a spelling mistake made by the person to whom he writes and states that "naked men" is wrong and &quo...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:12 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
- Replies: 73
- Views: 2777
γυμνὸς or γυμνοὶ in Clement's Letter to Theodore?
Greek palaeographer Agamemnon Tselikas produced a transcription of the Greek text of the Letter of Clement to Theodore that notably differed from that of R. Morton Smith and others who had read γυμνὸς γυμνῷ, 'naked man [sg.] with naked man' in line 67 (line 13 of page 3 in AKMA's transcription) of t...
- Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel priority
- Replies: 112
- Views: 3533
Re: Gospel priority
The classic argument for Q is that Matthew and Luke independently used Mark (but not each other). It is difficult to speak confidently about 'Q' when the double tradition material appears in *Ev and Mt already, for Luke to use there. Of course, the two source hypothesis (with Q) does deserve consid...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Did Josephus say that Jesus was called Chrēstos?
- Replies: 114
- Views: 5957
Re: Did Josephus say that Jesus was called Chrēstos?
This doesn't directly answer you, Ken, but it shows some of my progress along the way to answering. Thank's Peter. I am always interested to read good research on the topic of the possible Christian references in the works of Josephus (a category which includes the John the Baptist passage for most...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:53 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Flaw with Marcion priority theory?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 713
Re: Flaw with Marcion priority theory?
With regard, then, to the pending question, of Luke's Gospel (so far as its being the common property of ourselves and Marcion enables it to be decisive of the truth,) that portion of it which we alone receive is so much older than Marcion, that Marcion, himself once believed it, when in the first ...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Q" comes form Marcion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 512
Re: "Q" comes form Marcion
@Ken that is indeed a compelling presentation of sayings, but it is clearly selective. Much of the Sermon on the Plain and the Lord's Prayer don't even appear in the set. I'm not saying that they aren't onto something, but it's a selective presentation of Q sayings. This is getting surreal. You pre...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Q" comes form Marcion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 512
Re: "Q" comes form Marcion
We are told that Marcion referred to his Good God as "Father" and the "Highest" God. We are told that Marcion said Jesus was sent to deliver the message of the Good God, who was called loving and merciful and that we should love all. From Tertullian: Again, he [Marcion's God] pl...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:04 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Q" comes form Marcion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 512
Re: "Q" comes form Marcion
Part of what BeDuhn says is that *Ev contains passages that are "unMarcionite", so presumably *Ev, at least as BeDuhn has reconstructed it, does include "unMarcionite" passages. Are you quoting 'unMarcionite' from BeDuhn? Where does he say this? Obviously this wasn't a rigorous ...
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:25 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New book by Dennis MacDonald
- Replies: 28
- Views: 788
Re: New book by Dennis MacDonald
I think I'm done with answering Giussepe here. The other members of the forum may judge for themselves whether Giuseppe or I have presented a better case. If others have questions for me, I'll try to answer those.