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by kennethgreifer
Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22:17, Hebrew Text, "Like A Lion". Who's Lion?
Replies: 359
Views: 255985

Re: Psalm 22:17, Hebrew Text, "Like A Lion". Who's Lion?

The writer of Psalm 22 is clearly talking about his own life experiences, because he uses "I" and "me" over and over. The psalm was not written by the Messiah, and it is not a Messianic prophecy. Judaism and Christianity take many quotes out of context and say they are about the ...
by kennethgreifer
Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, When you say that David in Psalm 22 is a type, what is your proof for that in the Hebrew Bible? Is your belief in "types" from what the Hebrew Bible says or from the New Testament? I don't think the Hebrew Bible specifically says that David is a type of Messiah, but I think the N...
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

Here is another interesting possibility. If the psalm writer was wearing armor in battle and possibly was on a horse or maybe not, it doesn't matter, the person's hands and feet or hand and foot (it doesn't have to be plural) could have been pierced and not the person's body. What do you think of th...
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, The Masoretic scholars did not change Zechariah 12:10 and many other proof quotes Christians use. Isaiah 53 "light" is not as important as Zechariah 12:10 and some other proof quotes. The oldest copies of the LXX, when were they written? I mean the actual dates of those manuscrip...
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, My understanding is that you believe that David knew about the word "ari" as lion, but you want proof that he would have been using it too. Ezekiel only has the word once, but you seem to believe that he used the word. I assume that you believe that David read the word in the Bib...
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

What is your proof that David knew the verb kaaru with an alef or do you mean that a later scribe added the alef to the word? I don't know what you mean when you say that alef was added to some words. Do you mean the writer of Psalm 22 added it or a later scribe added it?

Kenneth Greifer
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, I don't write "Rakovsky" with a capital "R" because that is how you wrote it, not to insult you. Just in case you think that. I can't show other quotes in Psalm 22 where he compares himself to a lion. Does everything have to be written twice. Where else does it say his ...
by kennethgreifer
Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, I forgot to answer what you asked about the some Masoretic manuscripts that have the vav at the end like it was a verb. I think that the quote has been misunderstood for thousands of years, and some people thought it was a verb because they can't understand it as "like a lion." T...
by kennethgreifer
Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky, You said that Amos and Ezekiel could have used both spellings of the word "lion" as poetry, so David could have used both spellings of "lion" the same way. The argument about the rareness of the shorter spelling is very weak and is not important to your case. You should...
by kennethgreifer
Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation
Replies: 52
Views: 28456

Re: Psalm 22: an alternative explanation

rakovsky,

Also see Judges 14:8 and 9 which have the word lion with the letter hay three times and Judges 14:18 which has it without the letter hay once.

Kenneth Greifer