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Christianity is based on substitutionary atonement. Is it a moral religion?

The case of substitutionary atonement that I wish to speak of is when God deemed it moral and just to punish his innocent son Jesus, --- instead of punishing the guilty sinners that God was to condemn.

The strange part of this situation is that God had chosen to sacrifice Jesus even before the potential for sin was created, --- God had yet to create the earth, --- showing that what God was killing Jesus for, --- he had yet to create.

This was an arbitrary choice for God that was completely needless. God could have chosen to punish the guilty, --- what most call justice, --- or God could have found a moral way to forgive us. Instead, God chose to do the unjust and punish the innocent instead of the guilty.

The sacrifice was to pay or bribe God to change his usual policy of punishing the guilty to immorally punishing Jesus. God could have shown mercy and justice but instead decided to use an unjust method to forgive us.

That means that to be a good Christian, you have to accept and embrace the immoral tenet of human sacrifice and the notion that the best form of justice, --- when one wants to forgive someone, --- is to kill an innocent party.

As above so below.

At the end of days, God is to bring his law to earth.

Would you, as an innocent party, think it just if God punished you instead of the guilty?

Do you think that Jesus would ever preach such an immoral form of justice?

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:Christianity is based on substitutionary atonement. Is it a moral religion?
Perhaps this explains why a number of the gnostic texts have Jesus looking on (and actually laughing !!!) at his own crucifixion at which, in some cases, other people (eg: Judas) are crucified as his substitute.


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Leucius Charinus wrote:
Gnostic Bishop wrote:Christianity is based on substitutionary atonement. Is it a moral religion?
Perhaps this explains why a number of the gnostic texts have Jesus looking on (and actually laughing !!!) at his own crucifixion at which, in some cases, other people (eg: Judas) are crucified as his substitute.


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Perhaps.

With Christianity having burned so many of our scriptures it is hard to say how much was pure esoteric lessons. We do know they were all fantasy though.

We are left to guess but that is ok since we look at our scriptures as myths with messages.

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