trinity confusion

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lpetrich
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Re: trinity confusion

Post by lpetrich » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:05 am

iskander wrote: The Triune God is a matter of religious experience ; liturgical. mystical and often poetical. The "Triune God "is no more difficult to understand that the shorter "God".
As Bertrand Russell had noted, different mystics have experienced different things. I'll quote from "Mysticism" in Religion and Science:
We shall find, in the first place, that, while the witnesses agree up to a point, they disagree totally when that point is passed, although they are just as certain as when they agree. Catholics, but not Protestants, may have visions in which the Virgin appears; Christians and Mohammedans, but not Buddhists, may have great truths revealed to them by the Archangel Gabriel; the Chinese mystics of the Tao tell us, as a direct result of their central doctrine, that all government is bad, whereas most European and Mohammedan mystics, with equal confidence, urge submission to constituted authority.
The things that they do agree upon are rather limited. Again from R&S:
  1. that all division and separateness is unreal, and that the universe is a single indivisible unity
  2. that evil is illusory, and that the illusion arises through falsely regarding a part as self-subsistent
  3. that time is unreal, and that reality is eternal, not in the sense of being everlasting, but in the sense of being wholly outside time
So mystical experience is poor evidence for the Trinity.

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Re: trinity confusion

Post by iskander » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:20 am

It is not evidence for God, Gods, Triune God, or the Pantheist God.

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