Grateful Dead

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Re: Grateful Dead

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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:18 am

Boulder, eh? It's been taking me some time to get to these shows, and not being a "Weight" guy I was a little disappointed at first, but since I happened to watch Easy Rider for the first time the other day and it has the Weight in it, I thought I'd give it another chance today. And I like that China/Rider and the Scarlet is okay (and I wouldn't mind hearing the rest of the following Franklin's and Fire on the Mountain). All in all, it seems like it was a great tour and I'm glad the Dead scene still exists.
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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by arnoldo » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:53 am

I believe this is the entire set.

Set 1: China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Shakedown Street Brown-Eyed Women Althea Cassidy One More Saturday Night Set 2: Scarlet Begonias Franklin's Tower Fire on the Mountain He's Gone Jam The Other One Drums Space The Other One Days Between Sugar Magnolia Encore: Uncle John's Band Ripple

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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:06 am

"Roll away the dew!" Thanks, arnoldo. And now I'm enjoying that Fire on the Mountain. It's funny, as far as the Dead and religion goes, you might think Fire on the Mountain would have been a big one for me, and while I do like it, it tends to strike me as being tedious and I don't care for the lyrics at all. ("There's a dragon with matches that's loose on the town"?) I'd say the "best" version I've heard is from a post-Jerry show I saw at the Warfield in San Francisco in 2001 (if mainly for the memory), followed by this one from 1988 (in a show that also has a great Eyes of the World).

https://archive.org/details/gd1988-03-2 ... ntain.flac

Dt. 4:11-12:
You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain while it blazed with fire to the very heavens, with black clouds and deep darkness. Then the Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice.
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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:41 pm

I'm reconnecting with a friend from back when who is having a Grateful Dead revival and they have recommended a couple of shows that seem interesting, one that I was unaware of (9/28/75) and one that I'd always heard of but never got around to listening to (Alpine Valley July 1989). The latter turns out to have been a three show run, and after perusing the set lists and various soundboard recordings, I like the middle show the most so far (to judge from Jack Straw, Bird Song and Scarlet Begonias). As a reviewer writes:
More Alpine '89 madness; this "underdog", if you will, of the run might just be my favorite of the three nights. Just thrillingly dialed in. Friend of the Devil and Bird Song are just two of the many beautiful highlights from the first set. Doesn't this matrix board sound just lovely?
https://archive.org/details/gd1989-07-1 ... d1t02.flac

Oooh, and the reviewers are right, that's a great Eyes of the World. I'm liking this show. And that's a great Drums, Space, China Doll and Dear Mr. Fantasy. What a great second set!!! Thanks, old friend.

Update. I've been gravitating towards "matrix" recordings lately (which combine soundboard and audience recordings), but I'm finding that they tend to sound better over computer speakers than they do when I listen to them with headphones. And regarding the above show, I prefer the way this Charlie Miller soundboard recording sounds with headphones:

https://archive.org/details/gd1989-07-1 ... Straw.flac

The other one (pun intended) is a little strange and one of the few shows they played during their hiatus in 1975, on a cool day in Golden Gate Park following a performance by Jefferson Starship (and one that wasn't promoted as being a Grateful Dead concert but as Jerry and friends). And while I haven't listened to much of it yet, it does strike me as being different. As a reviewer writes:
I love '74 and I love '76. This show has elements of both, yet is quite unique in its own right. I can't think of another show that compares real closely to this one in terms of style.
https://archive.org/details/gd75-09-28. ... sbeok.shnf

Update. That Scarlet Begonias in the above Alpine Valley show is one of my all-time favorites now. I listen to that solo a lot and it has become a part of my life, and since I really like the song anyway, I thought I'd collate the others ones I like the most, since I've been in a Scarlet Begonias mood lately, and I think they will serve to illustrate how unique every version of a particular Dead song can be (with the "best" one for me being a toss up between Alpine Valley and 5/8/77). So, in order of date, here are the other ones. And as the song goes, "Once in awhile you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right."

10/16/74:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcNwYPlM6vA

12/31/76:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlNtO5kcwwU

5/8/77 (starts about 1:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFt7DobqbfI
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Re: Grateful Dead

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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:28 pm

Oh, the Mexico shows. Thanks for the reminder. I'm looking forward to the summer tour too (if only on video). If things work out though I might be able to make it to one show, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by arnoldo » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:10 am

Audio from the Mexico show available for download at the following link
https://archive.org/details/DeadCo2019- ... ipple.flac

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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:29 pm

My only complaint (as a hearing impaired person) would be that the sound on those above video and audio links is very low for some reason (and the audio link has an "audience recording" feel to it, which I typically don't care for). Oh, well.

And while I'm here, I've been revisiting some early era Dead lately, which I liked more when I was younger but is generally "too darn loud" for me now, and this one reminds me of when "the bus came by and I got on," as the song goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLnqiBg3mI

And while I'm still here and in an Other One and early Dead mood, here's another one I enjoyed back when and find "too darn loud" these days (and which, in my view, actually "starts" about 9:40; I've never cared to sit through that intro and overly long drum solo, but whatever floats your boat).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMRNvOtr8DM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt2BN9SeZsc
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Re: Grateful Dead

Post by John2 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:12 am

No, I'll take good ol' 1972 over 1970. And here is my favorite version of my all-time favorite Grateful Dead song (lyrically speaking, at least).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-cR8u0Jm9E

Gone are the days when the ox fall down
Take up the yoke and plow the fields around
Gone are the days when the ladies said "Please,
Gentle Jack Jones won't you come home to me."

Brown eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man is getting on

1920 when he stepped to the bar
Drank to the dregs of the whiskey jar
1930 when the wall caved in
He made his way selling red eye gin

Delilah Jones was the mother of twins
Two times over and the rest were sins
Raised eight boys, only I turned bad
Didn't get the lickings that the other ones had

Tumble down shack in Big Foot County
Snowed so hard that the roof caved in
Delilah Jones went to meet her God
And the old man never was the same again

Dad made whiskey and he made it well
Cost two dollars and it burned like hell
I cut hickory just to fire the still
Drink down a bottle and you're ready to kill

Brown eyed women and red grenadine
The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean
Sound of the thunder with the rain pouring down
And it looks like the old man is getting on
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