Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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Post by iskander » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:29 pm

Gilad Atzmon
http://www.gilad.co.uk/

On The Current International Zionist Smear Campaign

A Statement by Gilad Atzmon

"The criminalization of political speech and activism against Israel has become one of the gravest threats to free speech in the west.” Glenn Greenwald 19.7.2017


And Writings,

Atzmon has defined himself variously as a "secular Jew",[4] a "proud self-hating Jew" in the style of Otto Weininger,[26][27] an "ex-Jew",[54] "a Jew who hates Judaism",[55][56] and "a Hebrew-speaking Palestinian".[4]

Atzmon told interviewer Theo Panayides: "I don't write about politics, I write about ethics. I write about Identity. I write a lot about the Jewish Question – because I was born in the Jew-land, and my whole process in maturing into an adult was involved with the realisation that my people are living on stolen land."[26]

Atzmon has said that his experience in the military of "my people destroying other people left a big scar" and led to his decision that he was deluded about Zionism. He has condemned "Jewishness" as "very much a supremacist, racist tendency", but he has also stated that "I don't have anything against Jews in particular and you won't find that in my writings".[4] Regarding the one-state solution, Atzmon concedes that such a state probably would be controlled by Islamists, but says, "That's their business".[5]

Atzmon has compared "the Jewish Ideology" to that of the Nazis and has described Israel's policy toward the Palestinians as genocide.[57]

David Hirst, in his 2003 book The Gun and the Olive Branch, quotes Atzmon as saying America was "about to lose its sovereignty...becoming a remote colony of an apparently far greater state, the Jewish state.”[58] In 2009, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan cited Atzmon's written comment "Israeli barbarity is far beyond even ordinary cruelty" during a debate with Israeli president Shimon Peres.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Atzmon


Born
Gilad Atzmon
9 June 1963 (age 54)
Tel Aviv, Israel

Residence
London, England

Citizenship
British[1]
Formerly Israeli (renounced)[2]

Education
Rubin Academy of Music, University of Essex
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:05 am The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
Love Yourself as Much as You Hate Everyone Else

In page 101 of WW? Gilad Atzmon tries to understand the tribal concept of self-loving and the parent concept of Chosen-ness. Is this effort to undo this Gordian Knot anti- Semite? No, it is a very old problem already considered in Bamidbar 25 and in Tacitus' Histories .


In considering this problem Mr Atzmon shows his love of his place of birth and of its people , both for the benefit of Palestinian Hebrews and for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:18 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:05 am The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
Love Yourself as Much as You Hate Everyone Else

In page 101 of WW? Gilad Atzmon tries to understand the tribal concept of self-loving and the parent concept of Chosen-ness. Is this effort to undo this Gordian Knot anti- Semite? No, it is a very old problem already considered in Bamidbar 25 and in Tacitus' Histories .


In considering this problem Mr Atzmon shows his love of his place of birth and of its people , both for the benefit of Palestinian Hebrews and for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs
Phinehas son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest,, the mighty zealot, his image and his name have inspired religious zealots for thousands of years...

Tacitus is describing the living consequences of the antagonism of Phinehas and Gilad wants an end to this incomprehensible civil war.
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:35 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:18 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:05 am The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
Love Yourself as Much as You Hate Everyone Else

In page 101 of WW? Gilad Atzmon tries to understand the tribal concept of self-loving and the parent concept of Chosen-ness. Is this effort to undo this Gordian Knot anti- Semite? No, it is a very old problem already considered in Bamidbar 25 and in Tacitus' Histories .


In considering this problem Mr Atzmon shows his love of his place of birth and of its people , both for the benefit of Palestinian Hebrews and for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs
Phinehas son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest,, the mighty zealot, his image and his name have inspired religious zealots for thousands of years...

Tacitus is describing the living consequences of the antagonism of Phinehas and Gilad wants an end to this incomprehensible civil war.
Gilad Atzmon is a man of Jewish background dealing with specific problems.

The Jewish Question:
Could the Jews maintain their identity as Jews while becoming members of the larger community?
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:45 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:35 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:18 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:05 am The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
Love Yourself as Much as You Hate Everyone Else

In page 101 of WW? Gilad Atzmon tries to understand the tribal concept of self-loving and the parent concept of Chosen-ness. Is this effort to undo this Gordian Knot anti- Semite? No, it is a very old problem already considered in Bamidbar 25 and in Tacitus' Histories .


In considering this problem Mr Atzmon shows his love of his place of birth and of its people , both for the benefit of Palestinian Hebrews and for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs
Phinehas son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest,, the mighty zealot, his image and his name have inspired religious zealots for thousands of years...

Tacitus is describing the living consequences of the antagonism of Phinehas and Gilad wants an end to this incomprehensible civil war.
Gilad Atzmon is a man of Jewish background dealing with specific problems.

The Jewish Question:
Could the Jews maintain their identity as Jews while becoming members of the larger community?
The receiving community will be asking themselves questions like, ' What to do with these people?'
For the arriving community the question could be ,' How Jewish we should be?
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In Palestine the Government of Israel is now the receiving community and the Arabs are the refugees. Mr Atzmon is hoping for end of the eternal conflict between brothers.
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And so say all of us
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amen
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Re: Book review of Gilad Atzmon's The Wandering Who?

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iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:55 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:45 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:35 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:18 am
iskander wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:05 am The Jewish Question



Tacitus in Book V of Histories explains the problem created in a tolerant society by any group of hostile refuges, be Cretans, or Assyrians, or Egyptians or whoever.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... s/5A*.html


The receiving community expects the incoming refugees to make their gods and culture compatible with the happiness of the receiving society ;the refugees may remain true to their ethos while becoming helpful members of the receiving community.

Joining the melting pot, integrating into the community or any other descriptive name for the social process of receiving and arriving is a better name than any other particular name -- such as the Huguenot Question, for example-- which it would apply only to one case of the general problem.
Love Yourself as Much as You Hate Everyone Else

In page 101 of WW? Gilad Atzmon tries to understand the tribal concept of self-loving and the parent concept of Chosen-ness. Is this effort to undo this Gordian Knot anti- Semite? No, it is a very old problem already considered in Bamidbar 25 and in Tacitus' Histories .


In considering this problem Mr Atzmon shows his love of his place of birth and of its people , both for the benefit of Palestinian Hebrews and for the benefit of Palestinian Arabs
Phinehas son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest,, the mighty zealot, his image and his name have inspired religious zealots for thousands of years...

Tacitus is describing the living consequences of the antagonism of Phinehas and Gilad wants an end to this incomprehensible civil war.
Gilad Atzmon is a man of Jewish background dealing with specific problems.

The Jewish Question:
Could the Jews maintain their identity as Jews while becoming members of the larger community?
The receiving community will be asking themselves questions like, ' What to do with these people?'
For the arriving community the question could be ,' How Jewish we should be?
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