Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

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Gnostic Bishop
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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:33 am

iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:53 am
Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?
No, "fraudulent religions" have been ' regulated' by the keepers of the ' non-fraudulent religions' from time immemorial.
Jesus is one example of how this regulation of fraudulent religions operated .
Note how the post above refutes your statement.

You say no regulation then show an example of regulation. You might want to decide what you want to say.

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DL

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:34 am

iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:02 pm
One regulated fraud

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http://www.jesus-story.net/painting_crucifixion.htm


Jan Hus, Joan of Arc and ... are other examples .
I don't think ancient and likely imaginary conditions apply to our modern governments.

Come to our modern times.

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DL

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by iskander » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:28 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:33 am
iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:53 am
Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?
No, "fraudulent religions" have been ' regulated' by the keepers of the ' non-fraudulent religions' from time immemorial.
Jesus is one example of how this regulation of fraudulent religions operated .
Note how the post above refutes your statement.

You say no regulation then show an example of regulation. You might want to decide what you want to say.

Regards
DL
Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions? --Answer : No

Because : "fraudulent religions" have been ' regulated' by the keepers of the ' non-fraudulent religions' from time immemorial.

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by iskander » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:32 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:34 am
iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:02 pm
One regulated fraud

Image
http://www.jesus-story.net/painting_crucifixion.htm


Jan Hus, Joan of Arc and ... are other examples .
I don't think ancient and likely imaginary conditions apply to our modern governments.

Come to our modern times.

Regards
DL
Perhaps the history of the 20th century is not that different from events that took place in ancient times and ever since .

History should not be ignored.

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Nasruddin » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:43 am

And which court of law would they be prosecuted in? The one where you place your hand on a Bible and swear "to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God?"

First you need a truly non-religious court and state structure before you can even start to think about claiming religious fraud against all its practitioners.

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Jax » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:46 pm

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:17 am
Jax wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:05 pm
Where do you draw the line?

And when you do, how do you enforce it?
I have shown where I draw the line.
At lies designed to fleece the weakest and most gullible minds/victims. IOW, fraud.

I cannot enforce it by the government and legal systems can.

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DL
What if the 'Liar' believes what they are saying. If I say that the sky is green and actually believe that, should I be penalized for it even though it is actually blue?

Where you draw the line and where rational people draw the line are apparently two different things.

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:57 pm

iskander wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:32 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:34 am
iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:02 pm
One regulated fraud

Image
http://www.jesus-story.net/painting_crucifixion.htm


Jan Hus, Joan of Arc and ... are other examples .
I don't think ancient and likely imaginary conditions apply to our modern governments.

Come to our modern times.

Regards
DL
Perhaps the history of the 20th century is not that different from events that took place in ancient times and ever since .

History should not be ignored.
True but most Christians do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4

Regards
DL

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:01 pm

Nasruddin wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:43 am
And which court of law would they be prosecuted in? The one where you place your hand on a Bible and swear "to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God?"

First you need a truly non-religious court and state structure before you can even start to think about claiming religious fraud against all its practitioners.
If you do not trust your people and their systems then -----

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DL

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:04 pm

Jax wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:46 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:17 am
Jax wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:05 pm
Where do you draw the line?

And when you do, how do you enforce it?
I have shown where I draw the line.
At lies designed to fleece the weakest and most gullible minds/victims. IOW, fraud.

I cannot enforce it by the government and legal systems can.

Regards
DL
What if the 'Liar' believes what they are saying. If I say that the sky is green and actually believe that, should I be penalized for it even though it is actually blue?

Where you draw the line and where rational people draw the line are apparently two different things.
If they are not using morals examples and are using color examples, like you did, you are correct.

I am pleased not to be in such a poor mental state.

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DL

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Re: Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

Post by iskander » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:09 pm

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:57 pm
iskander wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:32 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:34 am
iskander wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:02 pm
One regulated fraud

Image
http://www.jesus-story.net/painting_crucifixion.htm


Jan Hus, Joan of Arc and ... are other examples .
I don't think ancient and likely imaginary conditions apply to our modern governments.

Come to our modern times.

Regards
DL
Perhaps the history of the 20th century is not that different from events that took place in ancient times and ever since .

History should not be ignored.
True but most Christians do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptNcSYo7k4

Regards
DL
And what about Christian Gnostics?

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