Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by iskander » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:44 am

Were they starving???

You are inventing that which is not there. A&E disobeyed the owner of the farm and he fired them. The rest is all of it nothing more than gnostic ( believers in magic objects and in the kowledge of the thoughts of gods ) invention.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:13 am

Gnostic Christianity has no supernatural beliefs.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by iskander » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:20 am

but you do.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by iskander » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:37 pm

Adam was a labourer in the Garden of Hashem
Genesis 2:15
The LORD God took the man and placed him in the garden of Eden, to till it and tend it.
https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.2.14-15 ... i&aliyot=0

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:06 pm

iskander wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:37 pm
Adam was a labourer in the Garden of Hashem
Genesis 2:15
The LORD God took the man and placed him in the garden of Eden, to till it and tend it.
https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.2.14-15 ... i&aliyot=0
Took him?

So much for free will.
No wonder Adam did the right thing to get the hell away from that stupid Yahweh and his Allah like slave wanting attitude.

No one deserves such pricks for Gods.
I wonder why Christians and Muslims are eager to shove their heads up their God's ass?
Likely Stockholm Syndrome or just their follower mentality. Oh well. A master must have his slaves.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by arnoldo » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:08 pm

I'm currently reading a book called A Land Unknown: Hell's Dominion by B W Melvin kindle version available at amazon. The following is a quote
"“When that tower fell so long ago, at Siloam, the question was not in who made it fall, or why it fell, or if those afflicted were more guilty than the rest, but rather raised the question of what type of redemption really redeems?"


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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:13 am

arnoldo wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:08 pm
I'm currently reading a book called A Land Unknown: Hell's Dominion by B W Melvin kindle version available at amazon. The following is a quote
"“When that tower fell so long ago, at Siloam, the question was not in who made it fall, or why it fell, or if those afflicted were more guilty than the rest, but rather raised the question of what type of redemption really redeems?"

Indeed.

That is why we Gnostic Christians seek only the salvation from poor thinking. When I show who I call God, I show how that salvation works in the narrative. Please have a look.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbes ... r_embedded

Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU

The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by iskander » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:54 am

In Irish Sinn Fein
Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
Sinn Féin ("ourselves" or "we ourselves") and Sinn Féin Amháin ("ourselves only / ourselves alone / solely us") are Irish-language phrases used as a political slogan by Irish nationalists in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in_(slogan)

You have a large following in Ireland ;)

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:58 am

iskander wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:54 am
In Irish Sinn Fein
Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
Sinn Féin ("ourselves" or "we ourselves") and Sinn Féin Amháin ("ourselves only / ourselves alone / solely us") are Irish-language phrases used as a political slogan by Irish nationalists in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in_(slogan)

You have a large following in Ireland ;)
Nice to hear.

Many countries have more free thinkers and astute minds than most think. We might even be the majority.

The trick is to have people put their morals ahead of their tribal instincts, which is what makes them religionists in the first place and able to follow putrid Gods like Yahweh and Allah.

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Re: Is the ongoing punishment of Adam and Eve justifiable?

Post by iskander » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:09 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:58 am
iskander wrote:
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:54 am
In Irish Sinn Fein
Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.
Sinn Féin ("ourselves" or "we ourselves") and Sinn Féin Amháin ("ourselves only / ourselves alone / solely us") are Irish-language phrases used as a political slogan by Irish nationalists in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinn_F%C3%A9in_(slogan)

You have a large following in Ireland ;)
Nice to hear.

Many countries have more free thinkers and astute minds than most think. We might even be the majority.

The trick is to have people put their morals ahead of their tribal instincts, which is what makes them religionists in the first place and able to follow putrid Gods like Yahweh and Allah.

Regards
DL
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