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Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:27 pm
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:53 pm
davidlau17 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:03 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:56 am
davidlau17 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:26 am I would summarize my beliefs as:
  • Jesus was real.
Rather known by 7th hand say so.

Do you have anything other than that to base your opinion on? Any facts for instance?

You appear to be a literalist. Do you believe in talking serpents and donkeys as well?

Regards
DL
I'm an atheist. I believe donkeys are real, yes.
I am a cut above atheists, just in the sense that I was thinking that they need to create churches long before they did.
I too believe in donkeys, but not in talking ones.
They can speak to each other, but cannot talk as directly to human's.
We can surmise what animals would tell us but have to use analogies that are only a best guess.

Regards
DL
Hmm the rest of that is not too bad a guess, for a pleb anyway. If you ever raised an animal you would know what they, that particular individual, meant tho k

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:34 pm
by bbyrd009
So, Jesus as real as you need Him to be, until you find Nehushtan and break him up as "Priest," 2Kings18:4, and find "John Doe from out of Nowhere" (Joshua, xlated as "Jesus" to us, was the most common male name then), and i forgot the rest of your Q sorry, lemme know.

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm
by bbyrd009
John T wrote: Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:58 am :idea:
Perhaps, it would be easier to understand/relate to others on this forum if we knew their basic point of view regarding the origins of Christianity.

Please share your view regarding the historicity of Jesus and the origin of Christianity. I will summarize your answer on the list below.
However, if I get it wrong please let me know and I will correct it.
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Do you believe there was a historical Jesus and what religion/sect did Christianity derive from?

1. Jesus was real and Christianity derived from Enochic Judaism a.k.a. the Essene group....John T

2. Jesus is a myth and Christianity derived from Gnosticism....Gnostic Bishop

3. Jesus was real and Christianity derived from the Pharisees...iskander
"Christian" was not a new term then i guess, and at the time meant what we might call "Zionist" today, a literal descendant of David on a literal throne; what Christianity has more or less reverted to now. But real, 1st century Christians were regarded as Atheists Bc no idol, no icon, is the way i currently understand it.

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:41 pm
by bbyrd009
As to Jesus "historicity" i don't much see the point wadr, as there is none, at least none that i know of? But I'm pretty sure Nazareth was not inhabited in the 1st century, although it was before and after, as if i'm not mistaken Gnostics first pointed out?
Hence "John Doe from out of Nowhere," being as how rabbis were known by their "school" location i guess?
Peace

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:43 pm
by bbyrd009
nili wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm My experience is that most discussions are improved by replacing ...
  • Jesus is ...
with ...
  • Jesus is depicted as ...
nice imo, ty

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:45 pm
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:50 am
nili wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm My experience is that most discussions are improved by replacing ...
  • Jesus is ...
with ...
  • Jesus is depicted as ...
I agree, but to a theist, it matters not.

Regards
DL
i'm a total theist, yo. I said "you are Elohim."

Re: Who's who on BC&H Foru

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:45 pm
by bbyrd009
nili wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:35 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:50 am
nili wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm My experience is that most discussions are improved by replacing ...
  • Jesus is ...
with ...
  • Jesus is depicted as ...
I agree, but to a theist, it matters not.

Regards
DL
Seems like a a dismissive stroke with a broad brush ...
His forte i guess?

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:46 pm
by bbyrd009
arnoldo wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:29 am
nili wrote: Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm My experience is that most discussions are improved by replacing ...
  • Jesus is ...
with ...
  • Jesus is depicted as ...
Jesus Through the Centuries: His Place in the History of Culture By Jaroslav Pelikan explores this theme.
ty!

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:30 am
by Gnostic Bishop
bbyrd009 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:26 pm [

I am a cut above atheists,
or at least a legend in your own mind, certainly
[/quote]

You show the hate in your heart and what looks like hypocritical dishonesty by not quoting the qualifier I put.

Thanks for showing your true nature.

Regards
DL

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:35 am
by Gnostic Bishop
bbyrd009 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:27 pm
Hmm the rest of that is not too bad a guess, for a pleb anyway. If you ever raised an animal you would know what they, that particular individual, meant tho k
I raised rabbits and we do not see their body language or know what they are saying when they speak to any worthy degree.

Regards
DL