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Re: question about evil

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:57 pm
I do not see it as a consuming fear. I do not welcome death, yet, but do not fear it.

I just see what I put an evolution as a fact.

Regards
DL
i'm not meaning to disagree that that likely got us to two different species overcoming their natural exclusion of each other as potential mates to produce a hybrid--maybe in more than one spot evolutionally speaking even--a plausible theory is that "man" did not actually emerge until Noah took the animals 2x2 into his ark--but i would argue that cooperation is the more evolved modus, as the terms "satan's" or "naive" dialectic even suggest...to me anyway?

Re: question about evil

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:49 am
by Gnostic Bishop
bbyrd009 wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:57 pm
I do not see it as a consuming fear. I do not welcome death, yet, but do not fear it.

I just see what I put an evolution as a fact.

Regards
DL
i'm not meaning to disagree that that likely got us to two different species overcoming their natural exclusion of each other as potential mates to produce a hybrid--maybe in more than one spot evolutionally speaking even--a plausible theory is that "man" did not actually emerge until Noah took the animals 2x2 into his ark--but i would argue that cooperation is the more evolved modus, as the terms "satan's" or "naive" dialectic even suggest...to me anyway?
For security and survival, absolutely. That is why our instincts default to it.
A baby does not come out biting, so to speak, I comes out wanting to cooperate and be fed.
That is the way for us, the weakest and most insecure animal on the planet.
Only as adults or growing children do we sometimes decide to compete due to being driven to try to be the fittest, which is the goal of evolution after survival of the host to our instincts.

We first want to make teams, and then try to rule or captain the team.

Regards
DL

Re: question about evil

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:34 pm
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:49 am
bbyrd009 wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:57 pm
I do not see it as a consuming fear. I do not welcome death, yet, but do not fear it.

I just see what I put an evolution as a fact.

Regards
DL
i'm not meaning to disagree that that likely got us to two different species overcoming their natural exclusion of each other as potential mates to produce a hybrid--maybe in more than one spot evolutionally speaking even--a plausible theory is that "man" did not actually emerge until Noah took the animals 2x2 into his ark--but i would argue that cooperation is the more evolved modus, as the terms "satan's" or "naive" dialectic even suggest...to me anyway?
For security and survival, absolutely. That is why our instincts default to it.
satan's dialectic? or we're not really having a convo?
A baby does not come out biting, so to speak, It comes out wanting to cooperate and be fed.
That is the way for us, the weakest and most insecure animal on the planet.
Only as adults or growing children do we sometimes decide to compete due to being driven to try to be the fittest, which is the goal of evolution after survival of the host to our instincts.

We first want to make teams, and then try to rule or captain the team.

Regards
DL
we "founded" the world, certainly. You might even recall the day you first recognized your self in the mirror. there's an indian--woo woo indian--ceremony for that even :)

Re: question about evil

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:34 pm
by bbyrd009
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Re: question about evil

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:40 pm
by bbyrd009
bbyrd009 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:34 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:49 am
bbyrd009 wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:57 pm
I do not see it as a consuming fear. I do not welcome death, yet, but do not fear it.

I just see what I put an evolution as a fact.

Regards
DL
i'm not meaning to disagree that that likely got us to two different species overcoming their natural exclusion of each other as potential mates to produce a hybrid--maybe in more than one spot evolutionally speaking even--a plausible theory is that "man" did not actually emerge until Noah took the animals 2x2 into his ark--but i would argue that cooperation is the more evolved modus, as the terms "satan's" or "naive" dialectic even suggest...to me anyway?
For security and survival, absolutely. That is why our instincts default to it.
satan's dialectic? or we're not really having a convo?
A baby does not come out biting, so to speak, It comes out wanting to cooperate and be fed.
That is the way for us, the weakest and most insecure animal on the planet.
Only as adults or growing children do we sometimes decide to compete due to being driven to try to be the fittest, which is the goal of evolution after survival of the host to our instincts.

We first want to make teams, and then try to rule or captain the team.

Regards
DL
we "founded" the world, certainly, that's where it begins anyway imo. the formation of the ego.Go Team. You might even recall the day you first recognized your self in the mirror. there's an indian--woo woo indian--ceremony for that even :). i guess oriental kuntry kids generally do not start thinking logically like ours do in the west, hence orintal pubic baseball games to a tie, etc. they are raised on the "naive dialectic; the wisdom hidden from the wise
:)
dont tell any religious ppl they arent Reading right tho k

Re: question about evil

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:21 am
by Gnostic Bishop
You are correct bbyrd009.
We are not having a conversation.

Regards
DL

Re: question about evil

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:19 pm
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:21 am You are correct bbyrd009.
We are not having a conversation.

Regards
DL
yes, that became obvious at "our instincts default to it," which was not a reply to my post, right?
I mean did you even absorb a single concept there, or are you strictly hear to preach gb. I reply to your posts?
So how bout "you are right, we are not having a conversation, I do not even acknowledge your existence, except as an audience" or...something bro, I mean anything, lol. You know you're just a fundamental in disguise i guess, right

Re: question about evil

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:05 am
by bbyrd009
But you think "Hegelian dialectic" is crap, right?
lol

Re: question about evil

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:07 am
by bbyrd009
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:49 am
bbyrd009 wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:57 pm
I do not see it as a consuming fear. I do not welcome death, yet, but do not fear it.

I just see what I put an evolution as a fact.

Regards
DL
i'm not meaning to disagree that that likely got us to two different species overcoming their natural exclusion of each other as potential mates to produce a hybrid--maybe in more than one spot evolutionally speaking even--a plausible theory is that "man" did not actually emerge until Noah took the animals 2x2 into his ark--but i would argue that cooperation is the more evolved modus, as the terms "satan's" or "naive" dialectic even suggest...to me anyway?
For security and survival, absolutely. That is why our instincts default to it.
A baby does not come out biting, so to speak, I comes out wanting to cooperate and be fed.
That is the way for us, the weakest and most insecure animal on the planet.
Only as adults or growing children do we sometimes decide to compete due to being driven to try to be the fittest, which is the goal of evolution after survival of the host to our instincts.

We first want to make teams, and then try to rule or captain the team.

Regards
DL
arnoldo wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:38 pm Sure, the following reminded me of the OP.

In Western logic, the laws governing the opposition of incompatible propositions are unquestioned. They are self-evident because the opposite is unthinkable. Two propositions that are contrary to each other cannot both be true though both can be false. The pursuit of truth in mathematics, science and philosophy is governed by freedom from contradictions. Now that mathematics and science have become transcultural, one might suppose that the logic of incompatible propositions would also have become transcultural. But that is not the case. Some, if not all, of the Far Eastern cultures don’t not accept this rule of thought, with respect to incompatibles, nor do they accept the underlying view of reality that it presupposes. It is not self-evidently true for them.

On the contrary, they hold the very opposite to be true, that the guiding rule of thought should drive the mind to embrace contradiction because contradiction in their view lie at the very heart of reality. It would seem that we cannot apply the Western logic of truth to the religions prevalent in Far Eastern cultures where that logic has no authority.


Re: question about evil

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:17 am
by Gnostic Bishop
bbyrd009 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:19 pm
Gnostic Bishop wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:21 am You are correct bbyrd009.
We are not having a conversation.

Regards
DL
yes, that became obvious at "our instincts default to it," which was not a reply to my post, right?
I mean did you even absorb a single concept there, or are you strictly hear to preach gb. I reply to your posts?
So how bout "you are right, we are not having a conversation, I do not even acknowledge your existence, except as an audience" or...something bro, I mean anything, lol. You know you're just a fundamental in disguise i guess, right
Disguise. No. Admitted. Sure.
If you want to deny you have instincts, go ahead.

Regards
DL