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Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:43 am
by bbyrd009
"Can you help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?
And if you cannot, why would God punish you?"

*Who told you that you were naked?*
(certainly not Me!)
*and not only our sins, but the sins of the whole world*
etcetc, for days

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:27 am
by Gnostic Bishop
bbyrd009 wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:40 am [
note who has eaten from "the tree of knowledge" as opposed to eating "what is it?"
[/quote]

I guess I was wrong on your ability to be educated. Oh well.

Regards
DL

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:52 am
by Geocalyx
Education about God is not knowing God. You're supposed to know him like you would a person. I think?! It's the most sane way to go about it. Like, I don't really know my neighbor for example - I might acknowledge him, greet him on the street, maybe share a BBQ or a gaming session once in a while - I have no idea how he would act in any given situation since I don't know what goes on in his aion (he alone does) ... despite this, I can say I *know* him. I know he's there, and we know each other.

I dunno how one's supposed to know the Lord, but this, with infinitely more love, is how one knows Father: as a loving person. This is the only way to know the unknowable as far as I can tell.

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:07 am
by Gnostic Bishop
Geocalyx wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:52 am Education about God is not knowing God. You're supposed to know him like you would a person. I think?! It's the most sane way to go about it. Like, I don't really know my neighbor for example - I might acknowledge him, greet him on the street, maybe share a BBQ or a gaming session once in a while - I have no idea how he would act in any given situation since I don't know what goes on in his aion (he alone does) ... despite this, I can say I *know* him. I know he's there, and we know each other.

I dunno how one's supposed to know the Lord, but this, with infinitely more love, is how one knows Father: as a loving person. This is the only way to know the unknowable as far as I can tell.
But without confirmation, it is all speculative and likely nonsense.

You say we have to know god as a person and I fully agree with that and that is what Gnostic Christianity teaches and preaches.

It all begins by knowing yourself as deeply as you can, which is Gnosis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QI3nlinYQ

Your thinking, as you can see from this link, is older and wiser than what the mainstream garbage religions are preaching from the idiotic supernatural thinking.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Regards
DL

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:55 pm
by Geocalyx
But without confirmation, it is all speculative and likely nonsense.
Dude, the very fact that you breathe and type is the confirmation that there is a father somewhere with your tag on him. There was a father that fathered him as well, think: father of john the father of jim the father of jack = father (john jim jack). THIS is also the Father, if you will.
You say we have to know god as a person and I fully agree with that and that is what Gnostic Christianity teaches and preaches.
for crying out loud THERE IS NO PROPER GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! with gnosis you're trying to know the Father! You already know God to be an abortion of wisdom. It's the Father you're after! Stay on the ground.
Your thinking, as you can see from this link, is older and wiser than what the mainstream garbage religions are preaching from the idiotic supernatural thinking.
This is what I am trying to say all along, but then you back up to heights with abstract evil and such abortions of rumination.

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:13 pm
by Geocalyx
I should elaborate...

You should know Father the way you would a person (exists, loves, likes it if I love, loves life - I know him but there is probably more to him than i am aware of), BUT NOT as if they were an actual person.

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:27 pm
by Geocalyx
Grace, understanding, perception and contemplation shall be your guiding lights towards Father, bishop.

Renounce all earthly possessions (= let go of all the gnosticist garbage and Church opinions on Heresy) and follow Mind - that is commons sense;

now go and read the whole of NHL, plus Brucianus, plus Askewianus, plus Tchachos. All of the books. In the sets they came in. They all belong to the same school btw, regardless of whatever they seem to be saying.

done that? Good, now do it again.

And again and again. Do it so much your mental constructs fold.

Then you will perhaps be closer to Father yourself.

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:49 pm
by Geocalyx
And read the actual NHL, not it's translations. It's simpler once you figure out how to cheat.

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:44 pm
by Gnostic Bishop
Geocalyx wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:55 pm
But without confirmation, it is all speculative and likely nonsense.
Dude, the very fact that you breathe and type is the confirmation that there is a father somewhere with your tag on him. There was a father that fathered him as well, think: father of john the father of jim the father of jack = father (john jim jack). THIS is also the Father, if you will.
You say we have to know god as a person and I fully agree with that and that is what Gnostic Christianity teaches and preaches.
for crying out loud THERE IS NO PROPER GNOSTIC CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! with gnosis you're trying to know the Father! You already know God to be an abortion of wisdom. It's the Father you're after! Stay on the ground.
Your thinking, as you can see from this link, is older and wiser than what the mainstream garbage religions are preaching from the idiotic supernatural thinking.
This is what I am trying to say all along, but then you back up to heights with abstract evil and such abortions of rumination.
Strange that you can denigrate and trash the thinking system I follow while you chastise me for not accepting what you put.

I guess that reciprocity and the ways of an esoteric ecumenist does not apply to idol worshipers like you.

Regards
DL

Re: question about evil

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:45 pm
by Gnostic Bishop
Geocalyx wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:13 pm I should elaborate...

You should know Father the way you would a person (exists, loves, likes it if I love, loves life - I know him but there is probably more to him than i am aware of), BUT NOT as if they were an actual person.
Try Jung and Freud's Father Complex to see why the ancients called god father.

Regards
DL