question about evil

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Geocalyx
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Re: question about evil

Post by Geocalyx » Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:41 pm

Touche on the idol worshipping bit! I guess I really shouldn't have told an "ecumentic esotericist" (meaning: "new-ager") to study the very source code to gnosis on its own terms, huh?

Anything but that! Brr yuck ancient books :lol:
Strange that you can denigrate and trash the thinking system I follow while you chastise me for not accepting what you put.
It's only strange for someone that makes no difference between right and wrong and is surprised at being called out on it.

Really, think, for once, why do you find it strange that someone is vocal on disagreeing with you on very profound levels? I'm not finding some sort of balance between your way and mine, here. I'd be a hypocrite if I were.
Try Jung and Freud's Father Complex to see why the ancients called god father.
I'd much rather stick to the ancients themselves, thanks.

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Re: question about evil

Post by Geocalyx » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:16 pm

And there you go with Freud again, btw. Freud worked with frustrated people with inbred ancestry from remote Austrian mountain villages. There is a reason "hysteria" is named after Donau - the political situation of the time (losing competition with Germany to unite the Germanic peoples, struggling economy, nationalist revolts), along with insane cultural norms and practices (burgeois women expecting to just faint once in a while due to arsenics and belladonas and tight dresses they were expected to apply in order to be percieved as decent, for one ... not to even mention the distant and tormented buireaucrats that were expected to be upstanding Fathers of society) made for a goldmine of psychological operations ... but due to the cultural pattern he chose, it's all skewed. So those people had daddy issues. Big fucking deal. Time to move on.

Which is why I do not care what Freud or his disagreeing student have to say about this.

I mean, I know what they said. Jung's symbols are all sorts of handy, and Freud's cases and notes make for interesting historical examples of mental deviation and wolf children and such.

I just don't care because the NHL through Austrian prism is not NHL.

Morning edit: Besides, Jung only had a chance of studying three books (Askewianus, Brucianus and NHCI). You, yourself, sitting there swearing by his views on this ... have a chance to study like, fifteen of them. Jung did not read "let mind and reason be your guiding principles" from Silvanus, nor did he read "what you see outside you, is inside you" from Thunder, he did not see the parodies that are Trimorphic Protennoia and the Acts of Peter and the Twelve. He had no way on noticing, for instance, the importance of personal interpretation of Jesus' words in Scrolls of the Savior. He did not have the material to see the bigger picture even if he had the brains to do it. It is convenient for his followers that had perhaps based their academic careers on this to view the NHL as partitioned between different schools of thought (same as with any other religion ... hence gnosticism), because if you apply the not ecumenic but deepest common meaning of all of the texts to "what Jung thought about the Tripartite Tractate", new-age and even bits of psychology start going down really fast. But that doesn't make the truth any different - the gnosis you base your systems on is actually saying making systems like this is very, very bad.

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Re: question about evil

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:14 am

Geocalyx wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:41 pm

It's only strange for someone that makes no difference between right and wrong and is surprised at being called out on it.
I know the difference between right and wrong.

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DL

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Re: question about evil

Post by bbyrd009 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:53 am

Geocalyx wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:13 pm
I should elaborate...

You should know Father the way you would a person (exists, loves, likes it if I love, loves life - I know him but there is probably more to him than i am aware of), BUT NOT as if they were an actual person.
ty. persons in God :rolleyes

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Re: question about evil

Post by bbyrd009 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:27 am
bbyrd009 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:40 am
note who has eaten from "the tree of knowledge" as opposed to eating "what is it?"
I guess I was wrong on your ability to be educated. Oh well.

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DL
um, i was agreeing with you there? but as you have already pointed out, how could you possibly be right anyway, right?

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Re: question about evil

Post by bbyrd009 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:59 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:14 am
Geocalyx wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:41 pm

It's only strange for someone that makes no difference between right and wrong and is surprised at being called out on it.
I know the difference between right and wrong.

Regards
DL
ha...but you dont know what the fruit of the tree of knowledge is?
i mean, i'm not sure how you might compare this post with the one about doing evil, wadr

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Re: question about evil

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:43 am

bbyrd009 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:59 am
Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:14 am
Geocalyx wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:41 pm

It's only strange for someone that makes no difference between right and wrong and is surprised at being called out on it.
I know the difference between right and wrong.

Regards
DL
ha...but you dont know what the fruit of the tree of knowledge is?
i mean, i'm not sure how you might compare this post with the one about doing evil, wadr
Try English if you want to be understood.

The fruit is all possible knowledge as all knowledge is subject to good and evil.
Scriptures show it as our gaining a moral sense.

Regards
DL

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Re: question about evil

Post by Geocalyx » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:45 pm

The fruit is all possible knowledge as all knowledge is subject to good and evil.
Er, what now?
NHCII/1 wrote:And have delivered him these archons,
placed him into paradise and said to him:
'Eat freely, it's for pleasure;'
since their dessert is bitterness
and their beauty lawless is;
their dessert though is deceit
and their trees lawlessness
and their fruit unhealthy is
and their promise is death -
tree though, their living,
which they placed in midst of paradise.

I will teach you though
what is the mystery of their living
which is the plan they perfected with their common
which is the likeness of their spirit;
about this one - the root of it is bitterness
and its branches death are;
its hatred is, and deceit
the one existing in its leaves
and its bloom is ointment of evil
and its fruit is death;
and desire is its seed
and it puts out a sprout of darkness -
those that take a taste of it
their place of existence is Amente
and, for you, darkness resting place.

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Re: question about evil

Post by Geocalyx » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:03 pm

I know the difference between right and wrong.
If so, you'd have known there can be no reciprocity between them, and you wouldn't find my aversion towards accepting even bits of your philosophy strange.

You'd have understood why I am so hostile, even if I was wrong.

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Re: question about evil

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:41 am

Geocalyx wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:45 pm
The fruit is all possible knowledge as all knowledge is subject to good and evil.
Er, what now?
NHCII/1 wrote:And have delivered him these archons,
placed him into paradise and said to him:
'Eat freely, it's for pleasure;'
since their dessert is bitterness
and their beauty lawless is;
their dessert though is deceit
and their trees lawlessness
and their fruit unhealthy is
and their promise is death -
tree though, their living,
which they placed in midst of paradise.

I will teach you though
what is the mystery of their living
which is the plan they perfected with their common
which is the likeness of their spirit;
about this one - the root of it is bitterness
and its branches death are;
its hatred is, and deceit
the one existing in its leaves
and its bloom is ointment of evil
and its fruit is death;
and desire is its seed
and it puts out a sprout of darkness -
those that take a taste of it
their place of existence is Amente
and, for you, darkness resting place.
Good. I see no argument against what I put.

Regards
DL

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