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by Geocalyx » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:16 pm
And there you go with Freud again, btw. Freud worked with frustrated people with inbred ancestry from remote Austrian mountain villages. There is a reason "hysteria" is named after Donau - the political situation of the time (losing competition with Germany to unite the Germanic peoples, struggling economy, nationalist revolts), along with insane cultural norms and practices (burgeois women expecting to just faint once in a while due to arsenics and belladonas and tight dresses they were expected to apply in order to be percieved as decent, for one ... not to even mention the distant and tormented buireaucrats that were expected to be upstanding Fathers of society) made for a goldmine of psychological operations ... but due to the cultural pattern he chose, it's all skewed. So those people had daddy issues. Big fucking deal. Time to move on.
Which is why I do not care what Freud or his disagreeing student have to say about this.
I mean, I know what they said. Jung's symbols are all sorts of handy, and Freud's cases and notes make for interesting historical examples of mental deviation and wolf children and such.
I just don't care because the NHL through Austrian prism is not NHL.
Morning edit: Besides, Jung only had a chance of studying three books (Askewianus, Brucianus and NHCI). You, yourself, sitting there swearing by his views on this ... have a chance to study like, fifteen of them. Jung did not read "let mind and reason be your guiding principles" from Silvanus, nor did he read "what you see outside you, is inside you" from Thunder, he did not see the parodies that are Trimorphic Protennoia and the Acts of Peter and the Twelve. He had no way on noticing, for instance, the importance of personal interpretation of Jesus' words in Scrolls of the Savior. He did not have the material to see the bigger picture even if he had the brains to do it. It is convenient for his followers that had perhaps based their academic careers on this to view the NHL as partitioned between different schools of thought (same as with any other religion ... hence gnosticism), because if you apply the not ecumenic but deepest common meaning of all of the texts to "what Jung thought about the Tripartite Tractate", new-age and even bits of psychology start going down really fast. But that doesn't make the truth any different - the gnosis you base your systems on is actually saying making systems like this is very, very bad.