Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:40 pm

Adhikarana I: Sutra 1 gives a hint that the book is meant for those who are endowed with a real desire for attaining the knowledge of Brahman.

This Sastra consists of several Adhikaranas or topics or propositions. Every proposition consists of five parts: (1) Thesis or Vishaya, (2) Doubt or Samsaya, (3) Anti-thesis or Purvapaksha, (4) Synthesis or right conclusion or Siddhanta and (5) Sangati or agreement of the proposition with the other parts of the Sastra

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:21 am

Thinking is indeed the most important part of life,

It is a shame that sheeple have set that duty to the self aside.

The eastern religions may be more advanced than the western ones. The eastern have something like 6 definitions for consciousness while the west have about 4.

We have forgotten that our western thinking was born in the east. A shame that.

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:34 pm

The thinking men of the West are also productive investigators of the nature of God, e.g. Summa Theological of Thomas Aquinas:


"The Structure of the Summa
Thomas’ Summa Theologiae (also referred to as S.T., or Summa for short) is a guide for teaching written in the style of a Disputation.
The individual units of a disputation are called Articles, which are grouped together into a Question that addresses a single topic. Thomas arranged these Questions into Three large parts:

Prima Pars (Part I)- God and Creation
Secunda Pars (Part II)- Man and the Moral Life (divided further into two sections:)
-Prima Secundae (Part I-II, or first section of the second part)
-Secunda Secundae (Part II-II, or second section of the second part)
Tertia Pars (Part III)- Christ and Redemption

Aquinas’s “articles” in the Summa theologiae and elsewhere usually have the following structure:
1. Question
2. Objections
3. “On the contrary” (Sed contra)
4. “I respond that” (Respondeo)
5. Replies to the Objections

The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas is, without question, the greatest work of theology ever written. And yet, because of the length of the treatise – some six hundred fifteen question of up to six or even eight articles, in three (or four) volumes – even the most avid fans of the Angel of the Schools find it difficult to read the whole Summa"

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:20 pm

Sounds quite complicated for sure.

"Prima Pars (Part I)- God and Creation"

I would likely stop after this as I do not buy into anything supernatural, if it relates to the supernatural that is.

"Thomas believed that the existence of God is self-evident in itself, but not to us."

But somehow to him. Quite funny that.

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:08 am

GAYATRI MANTRA DETAILED WORD BY WORD MEANING
Aum Bhur Bhuvah Swah, Tat Savitur Varenyam
Bhargo Devasya Dhimahi, Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat
https://blog.eaglespace.com/gayatri-mantra-words/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjs2RtrFgM

A basic translation can be given as...

Oh God, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the soul from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Creator and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very God, so that He may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.


A Buddhist translation can be given as...
A basic translation can be given as...
Oh Karma, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the non-self from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Maker and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very Karma, so that It may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.



Would you translate the Gayatri Mantra as a Gnostic Christian?

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:46 am

iskander wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:08 am
GAYATRI MANTRA DETAILED WORD BY WORD MEANING
Aum Bhur Bhuvah Swah, Tat Savitur Varenyam
Bhargo Devasya Dhimahi, Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat
https://blog.eaglespace.com/gayatri-mantra-words/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjs2RtrFgM

A basic translation can be given as...

Oh God, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the soul from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Creator and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very God, so that He may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.


A Buddhist translation can be given as...
A basic translation can be given as...
Oh Karma, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the non-self from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Maker and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very Karma, so that It may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.



Would you translate the Gayatri Mantra as a Gnostic Christian?
No. Too much supernatural content. We do not believe in anything supernatural.

The Buddhists I know have no supernatural content and their goal is to become Buddha like just as Christians are to become Jesus like.

Unfortunately, the Christian religion ahs been corrupted and they have taken God out of us.

I understand karma to be defined more like chance and one should not rely on chance and should rely on ones own efforts and Gnosis.

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:22 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:46 am
iskander wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:08 am
GAYATRI MANTRA DETAILED WORD BY WORD MEANING
Aum Bhur Bhuvah Swah, Tat Savitur Varenyam
Bhargo Devasya Dhimahi, Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayat
https://blog.eaglespace.com/gayatri-mantra-words/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjs2RtrFgM

A basic translation can be given as...

Oh God, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the soul from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Creator and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very God, so that He may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.


A Buddhist translation can be given as...
A basic translation can be given as...
Oh Karma, the Protector, the basis of all life, Who is self-existent, Who is free from all pains and Whose contact frees the non-self from all troubles, Who pervades the Universe and sustains all, the Maker and Energizer of the whole Universe, the Giver of happiness, Who is worthy of acceptance, the most excellent, Who is Pure and the Purifier of all, let us embrace that very Karma, so that It may direct our mental faculties in the right direction.



Would you translate the Gayatri Mantra as a Gnostic Christian?
No. Too much supernatural content. We do not believe in anything supernatural.

The Buddhists I know have no supernatural content and their goal is to become Buddha like just as Christians are to become Jesus like.

Unfortunately, the Christian religion ahs been corrupted and they have taken God out of us.

I understand karma to be defined more like chance and one should not rely on chance and should rely on ones own efforts and Gnosis.

Regards
DL
What is Gnosis?

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QI3nlinYQ

Think Buddhist meditation and where we go to create our mental picture of God.

We do as this link shows, but a Gnostic Christian or Gnostic of any religion will not idol worship his creation and remain a perpetual seeker of perfection instead of subordinating himself by his creation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1PDxeUynA

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:24 am

What is Gnosis , in your own words?

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Re: Would Jesus condemn or condone Yahweh for his crimes against humanity?

Post by iskander » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:30 am

iskander wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:24 am
What is Gnosis , in your own words?
It OK with me if you prefer to explain the video you have posted.
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