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Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:03 am
by ficino
The book under review here looks fascinating, and if I were "doing" ancient history, I would definitely rush out and read it. It is on the problem, how do we mesh evidence from archaeological excavations and from literary sources to create a coherent picture of a site, or of the events that we think are associated with the inhabitants or users of the site?

The book is Jonathan M. Hall, Artifact and Artifice: Classical Archaeology and the Ancient Historian. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2014. here reviewed by Andrea Guzzetti of San Jose State:

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2015/2015-03-39.html

Chapter 10, acc. to Guzzetti, discusses the excavations of the purported tomb of St. Peter 'neath the Vatican. That tomb was discussed by some of us over a year ago.

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:21 am
by Peter Kirby
ficino wrote:The book under review here looks fascinating, and if I were "doing" ancient history, I would definitely rush out and read it. It is on the problem, how do we mesh evidence from archaeological excavations and from literary sources to create a coherent picture of a site, or of the events that we think are associated with the inhabitants or users of the site?

The book is Jonathan M. Hall, Artifact and Artifice: Classical Archaeology and the Ancient Historian. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2014. here reviewed by Andrea Guzzetti of San Jose State:

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2015/2015-03-39.html

Chapter 10, acc. to Guzzetti, discusses the excavations of the purported tomb of St. Peter 'neath the Vatican. That tomb was discussed by some of us over a year ago.
That is interesting. Thanks. A long time ago now I read this book on the tomb of St. Peter that was unabashedly positive about the whole thing, and it may have contributed to my acceptance (for a while, anyway) of the idea that Peter went to Rome and was martyred there. I'd be curious what this book says there (and on the subjects generally).

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:13 pm
by ficino
As to Peter, if you're still interested, check back on our earlier threads, esp. Otto Zwierlein's works against Petrine burial there. There is also a neglected article in Mnemosyne, which I cite on one of those threads, that makes it appear that the "pro-Petrine" dating of the relevant tombs cannot be correct.

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:52 pm
by MrMacSon
ficino wrote: ... how do we mesh evidence from archaeological excavations and from literary sources to create a coherent picture of a site, or of the events that we think are associated with the inhabitants or users of the site?

The book is Jonathan M. Hall, Artifact and Artifice: Classical Archaeology and the Ancient Historian. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2014.

here reviewed by Andrea Guzzetti of San Jose State: http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2015/2015-03-39.html
It'd be great to see a wider view of ancient history beyond 'literary sources'.

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:39 am
by Clive
search for the individual
From op link

Maybe a huge amount of work is needed, especially around checking assumptions.

I liked the comment in the review about is there any relationship between a text and an artefact!

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:05 am
by Clive
And why is it a founder of Rome gets to have all sorts of questions asked about him, but an only begotten son of a god doesn't?

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:23 am
by Thor
Clive wrote:And why is it a founder of Rome gets to have all sorts of questions asked about him, but an only begotten son of a god doesn't?
Well... To be fair the founder of the Roman Empire was also claimed to be the begotten son of god.

Re: Meshing archaeological and literary sources

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:30 am
by Clive
I meant Rome - Romulus!
Romulus /ˈrɒmjʉləs/ and Remus /ˈriːməs/ were the twin brothers and main characters of Rome's foundation myth.
wiki

Actually, does Jesus have a twin anywhere?