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beowulf wrote:Could we examine the evidence for Petra?

Yes.

ghost wrote:

beowulf wrote:Could we examine the evidence for Petra?

Yes.

Where is it?

beowulf wrote:Where is it?

A just gave you one example: a mosque in Amman faced Petra.

ghost wrote:

beowulf wrote:Where is it?

A just gave you one example: a mosque in Amman faced Petra.

Yes, you did that and I thank you for it.
Is this the evidence you are making available for Petra?

“When the old mosque was torn down, the foundation stones of the earlier mosque revealed that the original building faced north towards both Petra and Jerusalem which were in almost exactly the same direction”

beowulf wrote:Is this the evidence you are making available for Petra?

There are more examples on that webpage with the qibla timeline.

“When the old mosque was torn down, the foundation stones of the earlier mosque revealed that the original building faced north towards both Petra and Jerusalem which were in almost exactly the same direction”

That's not Amman. Petra is south of Amman, and Jerusalem is west of Amman.

What you quoted refers to Medina.

http://searchformecca.com/timeline.html

Mosque of the 2 Qiblas faces north towards both Jerusalem and Petra (5 AH)

Masjid al-Qiblatain (Mosque of the two qiblas)

ghost wrote:

beowulf wrote:Is this the evidence you are making available for Petra?

There are more examples on that webpage with the qibla timeline.

“When the old mosque was torn down, the foundation stones of the earlier mosque revealed that the original building faced north towards both Petra and Jerusalem which were in almost exactly the same direction”

That's not Amman. Petra is south of Amman, and Jerusalem is west of Amman.

“The original buildings faced Petra, but the newer buildings (built some 40 years later) face Mecca During the period between these two constructions was the Second Civil War when ’Abdallah ibn Zubayr completely destroyed the Ka’ba and rebuilt it, possibly in a new location”

Is this the one Petra?

beowulf wrote:

ghost wrote:

beowulf wrote:Is this the evidence you are making available for Petra?

There are more examples on that webpage with the qibla timeline.

“When the old mosque was torn down, the foundation stones of the earlier mosque revealed that the original building faced north towards both Petra and Jerusalem which were in almost exactly the same direction”

That's not Amman. Petra is south of Amman, and Jerusalem is west of Amman.

“The original buildings faced Petra, but the newer buildings (built some 40 years later) face Mecca During the period between these two constructions was the Second Civil War when ’Abdallah ibn Zubayr completely destroyed the Ka’ba and rebuilt it, possibly in a new location”

Is this the one Petra?

beowulf wrote:Is this the one Petra?

I wasn't talking about mosques in Petra. I was talking about mosques facing Petra.

ghost wrote:

beowulf wrote:Is this the one Petra?

I wasn't talking about mosques in Petra. I was talking about mosques facing Petra.

OK, This one is my last post, Thank you for your replies.
Is this the one Petra?

Apparently early Muslims were aware of the technical problems to be solved in aligning a building with the Mecca direction.

Are errors important now?

From the eighth century onwards Muslim astronomers dedicated much attention to the problem of determining the qibla of any locality...

Astronomical alignments in Medieval Islamic religious architecture
DAVID A. KING