An opinion regarding Islam

Discussion about the Quran, hadith, the history of Islam, etc.
Post Reply
outhouse
Posts: 3525
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:48 pm

An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:14 pm

The possibility for multiple sources of Warakas plagiarism should not be underestimated as just one of many sources of the compilation of copied text for this filthy primitive religion of constant terror.

These genocidal maniacs have been murdering each other since this religion began and have been nothing short of cancer to humanity.

Should I tell you how I really feel? :roll:

outhouse
Posts: 3525
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:48 pm

Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by outhouse » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:20 pm

Battar Kurdi wrote: An Islamic web site on the history of Islam, the Koran and Hadith .. where useful information about manuscripts and History :goodmorning:
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/

This is nothing but BS Islamic rhetoric.

There factually is not a bit of the koran that carries any historicity at ALL! towards Jesus or Israelite cultures.

Not a single credible scholar uses this pathetic rag for anything historical during Israelite or Christian heritage because copied mythology is factually historically worthless.

Now I know you will run and hide not being able to plagiarize your cancerous feces here.

outhouse
Posts: 3525
Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:48 pm

Re: Muhammad gained his knowledge of the OT via the Diatesse

Post by outhouse » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:05 pm

Nathan wrote:Although I can't comment on Bowman's essay in any detail since I've not read it, on the face of it, its thesis regarding the Diatessaron seems unlikely.

For one thing, the Qur'an has far too many parallels with rabbinic texts to have been limited to the Diatessaron alone. In fact, it shows a rather pronounced awareness of Jewish/rabbinic biblical interpretations, often claiming them for itself. And even the Hadith state that Muhammad had a fondness for "traditions of the children of Israel."

Furthermore, some portions of the Qur'an handle biblical traditions somewhat sequentially, relative to the OT itself, that is. Surah 2, for example, at one point reflects material from Exodus 1, 12, 24 and then 32, in that order—suggesting (to me) that it is working directly with the book of Exodus.

Agreed in full.

First Waraka was his second cousin and he was a heretical priest and is said to have taken the boy in at 5 years of age for an unknown amount of time, and also the same person to claim he was divine.

We also have some of the text dating possibly to before the pedophile was even born right to Warakas time.

The text was compiled from many geographic locations who used many different traditions over a long period of time, taught to people who were all killed.

Only their friends are said to be the ones who from memory recorded their friends traditions. Ya I don't buy it either, and early sources have said to be different destroyed early and every filthy dishonest muzz I have ever met plays on its accuracy because of only one surviving tradition.

neilgodfrey
Posts: 3329
Joined: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:08 pm

Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by neilgodfrey » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:01 pm

outhouse wrote: These genocidal maniacs have been murdering each other since this religion began and have been nothing short of cancer to humanity.
Funny how I never heard of anything barbaric in the news related to the Muslim religion per se until the last two decades. It used to be those "commie" bastards, the Reds, who were all evil. Christians were the ones who had been murdering each other since their religion began. Suicide bombings were as likely to be carried out by socialists, nationalists.... what have you. Suddenly some Islamic terrorists emerge and carry the day and the next thing we know the religion of Muhammad has "always" been such a monstrous evil and will be until it is obliterated from the planet.

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:29 pm

Certain persons have been begging me for the past five years to write about war against the Turks, and encourage our people and stir them up to it, and now that the Turk is actually approaching, my friends are compelling me to do this duty, especially since there are some stupid preachers among us Germans (as I am sorry to hear) who are making the people believe that we ought not and must not fight against the Turks.

Some are even so crazy as to say that it is not proper for Christians to bear the temporal sword or to be rulers; also because our German people are such a wild and uncivilized folk that there are some who want the Turk to come and rule. All the blame for this wicked error among the people is laid on Luther and must be called “the fruit of my Gospel,” just as I must bear the blame for the rebellion, and for everything bad that happens anywhere in the world.
Martin Luther. Vom Kriege wider die Türken, 1528

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:42 pm

outhouse wrote:The possibility for multiple sources of Warakas plagiarism should not be underestimated as just one of many sources of the compilation of copied text for this filthy primitive religion of constant terror.

These genocidal maniacs have been murdering each other since this religion began and have been nothing short of cancer to humanity.

Should I tell you how I really feel? :roll:
Image

President Bush and Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah holding hands as they stroll.

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:53 pm

the battle of covadonga Spain

" Covadonga, village, Asturias provincia (province) and comunidad autónoma (autonomous community), northwestern Spain. It lies east of Oviedo city, at the head of the Sella River valley, near the base of the Europa Peaks, which form the highest massif of the Cantabrian Mountains. The village is noted as the reputed site of the defeat of the Moors in the Battle of Covadonga (c. 718–725) by Pelayo, the first Christian king of Asturias. The battle traditionally marks the beginning of the Christian reconquest of Spain, and, despite the legendary character of the stories about Pelayo, he became a major symbol of Christian resistance in medieval Spanish history. "
https://www.britannica.com/place/Covadonga#ref28350

Image
Chapel of Our Lady (Virgen de las Batallas), Covadonga, Spain.
© Jennifer Stone/Shutterstock.com

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:14 pm

" Crimean War, (October 1853–February 1856), war fought mainly on the Crimean Peninsula between the Russians and the British, French, and Ottoman Turkish, with support from January 1855 by the army of Sardinia-Piedmont. The war arose from the conflict of great powers in the Middle East and was more directly caused by Russian demands to exercise protection over the Orthodox subjects of the Ottoman sultan. Another major factor was the dispute between Russia and France over the privileges of the Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches in the holy places in Palestine.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Crimean-War"

Image
Crimean War
British soldiers leaving for the Crimean War, February 1854.

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:27 pm

Timeline: The Ottomans and the Balkans
Chronology :
1300s:
Turkic tribe known as Ottomans forms small state in western Anatolia.

1352:
Ottomans invade and begin to occupy Bulgaria.

1371:
Ottomans defeat Serbs and their allies at Battle of Maritsa.

1389:
Ottomans inflict second defeat on Serbs, now led by Prince Lazar, at the Battle of Kosovo, beginning slow conquest of Serbia.

1402:
Ottomans move their capital from Asia Minor to Edirne (Adrianople) in Europe, signaling their intention to become a major European power.

1453:
Ottomans encircle and conquer Constantinople, ending the Byzantine Empire.

1459:
Fall of Smederevo liquidates last remnant of independent Serbian state.

1463:
Ottomans almost complete conquest of Bosnia, executing last king of Bosnia, Stjepan Tomasevic, at Jajce.

1468:
Albanian warrior prince Skenderbeg dies. Within a decade of his death, Ottomans overrun most of Albania.

1493:
Croatian nobility annihilated at Battle of Krbava in Lika, opening way to Ottoman conquest of much of Croatia.

1526:
Hungarian army crushed at Battle of Mohacs, opening way for Ottoman conquest of Hungary.

1557:
Sultan decrees restoration of Serbian Orthodox Patriarchate, vacant since the 1460s. Return of Patriarchs to Pec stimulates revival of Serbian identity within Ottoman Empire.

1683-1699:
Habsburgs conquer Ottoman-ruled Hungary and Croatia, forging new frontier between “Austrian” and “Turkish” empires. Failed uprising among Serbs in Kosovo results in mass emigration of Serbs to Habsburg Slavonia and Vojvodina.

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article ... -in-europe

iskander
Posts: 1762
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:38 pm

Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by iskander » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:41 pm

" Battle of Tours, also called Battle of Poitiers , (October 732), victory won by Charles Martel, the de facto ruler of the Frankish kingdoms, over Muslim invaders from Spain. The battlefield cannot be exactly located, but it was fought somewhere between Tours and Poitiers, in what is now west-central France. "
https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Tours

Image

Battle of Poitiers, in October 732, oil on canvas by Charles de Steuben, 1834–37; in …
Photos.com/Thinkstock

Post Reply