An opinion regarding Islam

Discussion about the Quran, hadith, the history of Islam, etc.
outhouse
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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:20 pm

Neil the world is violent and people generally pretty primitive.

All the more reason moderation in religion is required for peace. And some religions do not offer moderation.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:27 pm

outhouse wrote:Try asking a muslim a question that is even partially negative about the koran.

They are unable to communicate, you will get asked a question in return. You never get a honest straight answer back EVER.
You evidently have not met many Muslims from the mainstream. I have worked with Muslims, met and talked with many, arranged public information sessions with some of their leaders.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:30 pm

outhouse wrote:Neil the world is violent and people generally pretty primitive.

All the more reason moderation in religion is required for peace. And some religions do not offer moderation.
All the more reason to learn a little history. I have followed the developments of much of the modern violence in the Muslim world and understand fairly well the causes behind it.

Views like the one you express here are without any basis in historical knowledge of the reasons for the violence. Your statement that Islam does not offer moderation is pure fabrication in defiance of the facts -- based entirely upon the ideology of a very narrow group of political extremists.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:35 pm

outhouse wrote:Try asking a muslim a question that is even partially negative about the koran.

They are unable to communicate, you will get asked a question in return. You never get a honest straight answer back EVER.
There is a word to describe your depiction of an entire group of people: dehumanisation.
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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:37 pm

neilgodfrey wrote:
There is a word to describe your depiction of an entire group of people: dehumanisation.
Cancer is the word I use.

ilsam is cancer to humanity

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:38 pm

What would you think if you heard that Jews are unable to communicate, that they never give honest straight answers EVER? That practising Jews are a cancer to humanity?

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:42 pm

neilgodfrey wrote:based entirely upon the ideology of a very narrow group of political extremists.

I spent the 7 years debating muslims on religion form most different countries.

So my opinion base solely on experience and studying the origins of the religion.


I have a single question that reduces the religion to a complete lack of credibility.

Why does not one scholar/historian in the whole world use the koran for anything historical regarding jesus or Israelite characters called prophets in their book????????

You should here the muslim answers, but usually its another question asked back.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:43 pm

So you don't know any Muslims. All your experience is from your internet debates on various web forums.
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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:44 pm

neilgodfrey wrote:What would you think if you heard that Jews are unable to communicate, that they never give honest straight answers EVER? That practising Jews are a cancer to humanity?

FWIW it applies to all YEC and orthodox Jews as well.

We are talking about 3 groups that refuse education and knowledge in favor of myth, they are usually totally ignorant about, dues to willful ignorance.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:44 pm

neilgodfrey wrote:So you don't know any Muslims. All your experience is from your internet debates on various web forums.
You mean my family members that survived the genocide committed by different muslims???

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