An opinion regarding Islam

Discussion about the Quran, hadith, the history of Islam, etc.
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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:53 pm

outhouse wrote:
neilgodfrey wrote:What would you think if you heard that Jews are unable to communicate, that they never give honest straight answers EVER? That practising Jews are a cancer to humanity?

FWIW it applies to all YEC and orthodox Jews as well.

We are talking about 3 groups that refuse education and knowledge in favor of myth, they are usually totally ignorant about, dues to willful ignorance.
You are spewing bigotry and ignorance. You are not the least interested in learning from anyone else's experience and reading if you believe it is contrary to your prejudices. Hatred of Christians, Jews and Muslims has no place in my world and you allow no room for discussion or broadening of understanding or knowledge.

I know Muslims personally, have worked with them, and have lived in very close quarters with them, and know they are a very diverse lot. I also have a pretty good understanding of the wars and terrorism associate with their religion. You, on the other hand, only know Muslims from your hostile questioning in online debates. You know nothing of the history of the conflicts or of what most Muslims themselves believe and say about their troubles.

You accuse all orthodox Jews and Muslims of being a cancer on humanity. That's as bigoted and ignorant and obscene a comment as anything I can imagine. Excuse me while I go to the bathroom .... I am feeling quite nauseous from this exchange with you.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:54 pm

outhouse wrote:
neilgodfrey wrote:So you don't know any Muslims. All your experience is from your internet debates on various web forums.
You mean my family members that survived the genocide committed by different muslims???
So you don't know any Muslims personally, do you. To you all Muslims are genocidal monsters.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by neilgodfrey » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:58 pm

What I find most disturbing, most sickening, in your words is your evident refusal to even contemplate a possibility that your view might be too narrow and limited and without sufficient background information. You are the one with whom discussion on this topic is utterly impossible. Your mind is closed. There is no room for learning or deepening understanding. I feel literally sick in the stomach reading your words.

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Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by JPCusickSr » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:44 am

outhouse wrote: You cannot refute that Islam holds the highest amount of required fanaticism, out of any Abrahamic faith.
In my view being a fanatic in faith is a positive and beneficial characteristic.

This is one big reason why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA and in the world.

Other religions are largely on the decline, and true religion blossoms by its fanatics and zealots.

The west in particular has far too many wishy-washy people who believe in nothing of value.

Of course we do have plenty of worldly fanatics in their greed and their lust who always trumpet their disdain for religion.
outhouse wrote: You did not refute anything I have directed at you yet.
It is obvious that you are prejudice against all religion, and a special venom against Muslims, and that is very common in the white culture of today, so I find that there is no real way to refute against blatant bigotry and so I try not to do that.

So if you or anyone makes a posting which discusses the thread topic in an adult manner then I am happy to discuss anything.

But I do believe that we need to stick to the topic or else we do harm to the forum.

See my comment in this thread = Fourth Posting from top.
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Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by outhouse » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:19 am

JPCusickSr wrote:In my view being a fanatic in faith is a positive and beneficial characteristic. .
Faith is what flew large jet planes into tall buildings.

Your religious education weak and pathetic if you do not understand the danger and negative effects faith can have when misused.

The negative aspect of religion has to do with fanaticism and fundamentalism. There is no positive to either.

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Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by outhouse » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:20 am

JPCusickSr wrote:The west in particular has far too many wishy-washy people who believe in nothing of value.
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That is your worthless petty opinion.

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Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by outhouse » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:22 am

JPCusickSr wrote: This is one big reason why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA and in the world.

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This is factually because they breed like rats.

But the main reason is that they marry into other faiths and force conversion.

The reason its growing in the USA is not from conversion, its because we lets these animals in raising the numbers.

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:29 am

neilgodfrey wrote:What I find most disturbing, most sickening, in your words is your evident refusal to even contemplate a possibility that your view might be too narrow and limited and without sufficient background information. You are the one with whom discussion on this topic is utterly impossible. Your mind is closed. There is no room for learning or deepening understanding. I feel literally sick in the stomach reading your words.
That is how I feel towards the 13M deaths islam is responsible for in the last 100 years.

That is how I feel about what once was a decent faith that accepted education and knowledge.

That is how I feel about the historical archeology sites in the middle east being blown up and destroyed by primitive faith.

That is how I feel about a whole group of people who refuse history in favor of myth.

Have you ever had a scientific or historical discussion with a YEC?
obviously you never have or you would recognize the same behavior and methodology of all of islam.


Why do you love fanaticism?

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Re: An opinion regarding Islam

Post by outhouse » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:31 am

neilgodfrey wrote:
So you don't know any Muslims personally, do you. To you all Muslims are genocidal monsters.

I told you they are family, and I know many personally.

How else would I know it is impossible to have a historical or scientific discussion.

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Re: useful information about Islamic manuscripts

Post by JPCusickSr » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:49 pm

outhouse wrote: Faith is what flew large jet planes into tall buildings.
Their faith may well have sustained each individual, but it was politics which flew into the buildings.

The American propaganda is not very savvy.

If it had been a religious attack then they would have struck religious targets.
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