The European Court of Human Rights

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beowulf
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The European Court of Human Rights

Post by beowulf » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:08 am

Would a Muslim man/woman like to comment on this finding of the European Court?


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European Court upholds French full veil ban
The European Court of Human Rights has upheld a ban by France on wearing the Muslim full-face veil - the niqab.
A case was brought by a 24-year-old French woman, who argued that the ban on wearing the veil in public violated her freedom of religion and expression.
French law says nobody can wear in a public space clothing intended to conceal the face. The penalty for doing so can be a 150-euro fine (£120; $205).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/p ... hamber.pdf
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28106900

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by ghost » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:00 pm

Any idea how niqabs originated, and where to find the historiographic sources? That would be interesting to see.

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by beowulf » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:20 pm

ghost wrote:Any idea how niqabs originated, and where to find the historiographic sources? That would be interesting to see.
This link provides a good introduction to this subject.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions ... ab_1.shtml
Historically, the veiling of the face was practised by many cultures before Islam and scholars say the adoption of its practice by Muslims was part of fitting into the society...

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by ghost » Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:17 am

Historically, the veiling of the face was practised by many cultures before Islam and scholars say the adoption of its practice by Muslims was part of fitting into the society.
They don't name a concrete example of one such culture. Any ideas on how to find an example?

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by beowulf » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:30 am

ghost wrote:
Historically, the veiling of the face was practised by many cultures before Islam and scholars say the adoption of its practice by Muslims was part of fitting into the society.
They don't name a concrete example of one such culture. Any ideas on how to find an example?

Genesis 24:65
65. And she said to the servant, "Who is that man walking in the field towards us?" And the servant said, "He is my master." And she took the veil and covered herself.

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Indian Women with Ghoonghat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoonghat

The Lalitavistara, a fanciful biography of the Buddha, has an interesting story pertaining to the issue of female veiling. -
http://www.buddhisma2z.com/content.php?id=508

Excavations at the site of the ancient city of Nineveh uncovered the glories of the Assyrian civilization that flourished in the lands of Mesopotamia several millenniums BC. Among the treasures found were the famous tablets of Nineveh that enabled archeologists to unravel the mysteries of this civilization. These tablets that are currently exhibited in the London museum described in details the lives of the people, the history, culture, sciences, literature, and religion of this civilization.
Respectable women were forced to wear the veil while those who were considered unrespectable were forced to go with their heads uncovered. Thus veil became an exclusive symbol of respect; a privilege that slaves, prostitutes and concubines were denied off.


http://alexandrakinias.wordpress.com/20 ... ent-world/

The virtuous princess of Panchala, worshipping the celestial Rishi's feet, stood with joined hands before him, properly veiled
http://www.holybooks.com/mahabharata-al ... pdf-files/
page 465
THE MAHABHARATA
OF
KRISHNA-DWAIPAYANA VYASA
Translated into English prose from the
original Sanskrit Text.
BY
PRATAP CHANDRA ROY, C. I. E.
VOL I
ADI PARVA
ORIENTAL

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by angelo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:30 am

Good on the French for nabbing this nonsense in the bud. :D

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by beowulf » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:35 pm

angelo wrote:Good on the French for nabbing this nonsense in the bud. :D
yes, It is very good that the European Court of Human Rights has done what is supposed to do : protect men and women from one specific interpretation of God .

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by iskander » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:55 pm

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/26 ... ijab-burqa

The European Court of Human Rights has struck down a case filed by a Muslim woman protesting France’s ban on Islamic hijab at workplace.
The Strasbourg-based court on Thursday upheld the ban on hijab in the case of Christiane Ebrahimian, a Muslim social worker who lost her job at a hospital in the suburb of the capital Paris in 2000 after she refused to remove her scarf.

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by iskander » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:28 pm

Ban on Muslim full-face veil takes effect in Denmark
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Women in niqabs gather before a demonstration against the Danish face veil ban in Copenhagen, Denmark, on August 1, 2018. (Photo by Reuters)
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/ ... lface-veil

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Re: The European Court of Human Rights

Post by iskander » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:50 pm

iskander wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:28 pm
Ban on Muslim full-face veil takes effect in Denmark
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Women in niqabs gather before a demonstration against the Danish face veil ban in Copenhagen, Denmark, on August 1, 2018. (Photo by Reuters)
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/ ... lface-veil
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