How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

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ghost
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How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

Post by ghost » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:53 am

Any ideas how to find the sources about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%8 ... ntine_wars

Clive
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Re: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

Post by Clive » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:13 am

I think the comments there about sea battles may be important. Has anyone connected the Vikings to the Arab successes? ? Were there important technological innovations? I understand the Vikings were using mass production in ship building.
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Re: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

Post by Thor » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:04 pm

Clive wrote:I think the comments there about sea battles may be important. Has anyone connected the Vikings to the Arab successes? ? Were there important technological innovations? I understand the Vikings were using mass production in ship building.
The Vikings connection to period of Byzantine resurgence, from the middle of the 9th- to the 11th century, is perhaps more clearer.

It is important to understand Viking naval vessels for what they were. Methods of transportation. The strength of the Vikings ships did not come from their capabilities in sea battles, but their ability to avoid them by own choice. important technological innovations regarding shipbuilding was the Norse innovation of "Clinker" built ships. Mass production was more the result of a cultural institution implemented as "law", than a technological development.

For the Viking connection with Byzantine, which was centered around Constantinople, referred to by Vikings as Miklagard
( The great city ). The best elaboration can probably be found by reading about the history of the "Varangians". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians

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Re: How did the Byzantines withdraw from Greater Syria?

Post by Clive » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:09 am

Those articles lead to discussions about what caused the Viking incursions! Climate change is noted.

I have a couple of timeline history books! My impression is that what causes what is a continuing debate, one cause that is not given much weight is an angel speaking to someone in a cave, but maybe it is more important than is realised!
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