New views of New Testament formation(?)

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Re: New views of New Testament formation(?)

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outhouse wrote:
Bertie wrote:
Canonization of the #Bible is often falsely linked to Nicea. Nicea did not at all address the canon. We have very little info. #NewNT

Can't really stop repeating this point enough for the masses.

There is no reason it would not be talked about or brought up. Could be where he talked about content of his 50 bibles ordered not long after.

Canonization, no. But it was in the works.
We have very little info:

The reality is an almost complete lack of evidence for the epoch 325-350's. Nicaea, the second most important event in Christian history. What happened? We don't really know. Scanty and suspicious records, preserved by the later church survive. Almost a veritable black hole out of which event horizon the church men Eusebius and Lactantius shine dimly. Whatever historical accounts were written of Nicaea in the 4th century, they were passed over and/or suppressed by the extant "church history accounts" of the 5th century. These were written one hundred years after the events. Theodosius had already decreed 381 CE that the Nicaean Creed was the One True Creed of the Roman Empire. All hail the 318 Nicaean Fathers !!! (and of course their "fearless leader")

This black hole could have been very black. Constantine's rule was marked with many executions. When the political history of Ammianus cuts in in the 350's, the "highways were covered with galloping bishops" and there was at least one tribunal at which "numbers without end" were dragged from Alexandria and Antioch for torture and execution on account of their asserted anti-Christian religious beliefs.


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