Sure,those all would qualify, I think. The Logos (Philo) I would add. The suffering servant (Isaiah), the righteous son of God (Wisdom of Solomon), Yesseus, Mazareus, Yessedekeus, the Living Water (Apoc of Adam), etc.perseusomega9 wrote:cienfuegos wrote:
I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
people?: Adam, Enoch, Elijah, Joseph, Joshua, Melchizedek, Seth
angels?: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Angel of Yahweh, Metatron
Sophia/Wisdom?
"Who do men say I am?"
How many Christs are there?
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They are Legion!cienfuegos wrote:Sure,those all would qualify, I think. The Logos (Philo) I would add. The suffering servant (Isaiah), the righteous son of God (Wisdom of Solomon), Yesseus, Mazareus, Yessedekeus, the Living Water (Apoc of Adam), etc.perseusomega9 wrote:cienfuegos wrote:
I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
people?: Adam, Enoch, Elijah, Joseph, Joshua, Melchizedek, Seth
angels?: Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel, Angel of Yahweh, Metatron
Sophia/Wisdom?
"Who do men say I am?"
The metric to judge if one is a good exegete: the way he/she deals with Barabbas.
Who disagrees with me on this precise point is by definition an idiot.-Giuseppe
Who disagrees with me on this precise point is by definition an idiot.-Giuseppe
Re: How many Christs are there?
Who do men say I am?
What is your name?
Name above all names?
What is your name?
Name above all names?
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: How many Christs are there?
You can use your imagination and make as many as you please.Clive wrote:There seems to be an assumption, possibly from biology, that there is a last common ancestor Christ, we argue here is it "mythical" or "historical".
But what if we are using unconsciously the wrong biological model?
It is now accepted there was - and is - a huge bacterial world where horizontal gene transfer is the reality. Mix and match.
So why not for example ask how many different Christs are there in the New Testament? What are their common points and differences?
And instead of attempting to ask how do they track back to a historical Jesus or a Cosmic Christ, ask what bits are they made from? Which part bins were used to put together particular Christs? The Land Rover Discovery Christ, the Ford Christ, the Emperor Christ?
Its easy to take the word out of context and pervert it to no end.
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What, though, if there are actually many christs?
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: How many Christs are there?
Depends on how bad you want to pervert "the anointed one"Clive wrote:What, though, if there are actually many christs?
Re: How many Christs are there?
I agree! The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.cienfuegos wrote: I think there are pre-Christian Christs.
and there are likely to be Christs concurrent to (or 'parallel to') the Christian Christ.
Re: How many Christs are there?
credible sources please.MrMacSon wrote: The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.
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Re: How many Christs are there?
Sure.outhouse wrote:credible sources please.MrMacSon wrote: The Christian Christ is likely a continuation of a tradition.
See http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/c ... ristos.htm
and it was applied to manumitted slaves
add: this fits with cienfuegos's assertion (in another thread) that
.There is evidence that some Jews began referring to a suffering servant figure in the past tense (such as in the Wisdom of Solomon) and possibly pre-Christian versions of the Ascension of Isaiah.
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credible sources please.