Red Herring of Parallelomania & 3 shades of Apologetics

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Red Herring of Parallelomania & 3 shades of Apologetics

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From James Constantine Hanges, Paul, Founder of Churches, p. 455
We saw that with respect to method, the vigorous push-back against the search for continuities practiced by the Religionsgeschichtliche Schule at the end of the last century redefined the comparative enterprise by using comparison specifically to identify differences that could be deployed to protect the essential the uniqueness of Christianity. [Kummel, New Testament: The History of the Investigation of Its Problems, 206-25]

. . . . . . . .

But what we can now see, especially with the aid of contemporary culture studies, is that despite the methodological "red-herring" known as, "parallelomania," thrown into the arena by apologists, the fundamental theoretical proposition of the Religionsgeschichtliche Schule was, despite certain missteps, true to its target - religions cannot be isolated from the historical, social, and environmental forces that shape all cultural forms; religions, including Christianity, belong to and are always shaped by history.
Hanges at least knows what he's talking about when he mentions "parallelomania" which is more than can said for possibly most people who throw the word around. . . .
Of course. the "red-herring" of parallelomama, so often flung accusatorially at the early Religionsgeschichtliche Schule, is often traced to Samuel Sandmel, "Parallelomania, ·· JBL 81, no. I (1962): 1- 13, who d1d not actually deal with the practice of the History of Religion school explicitly, but rather limited his focus to the use of rabbinic and other Jewish parallels in the interpretation of the New Testament, primarily the gospels.
Earlier in his opening chapter he also wrote (p. 12)
In methodological terms, as we shall see in due course, postcolonial observations have pulled the rug out from under any theoretical or methodological justification for the, more often than not, apologetically-motivated demand that only unambiguously exact, rigidly-defined cultural parallels . . . could possibly be used as evidence for external influence or cultural influence on Christianity; the effect being to effectively isolate Christianity and protect its "uniqueness" from the contamination of non-Christian religious ideas or practices. . . . .

In other words . . . Christianity, or more accurately, the cultural forms associated with it, can no longer be protected from the convulsive realities of cultural encounter. All attempts to do so are simply methodologically obsolete, if not embarrassingly obviously apologetic, strategies to insist that a selected difference is diagnostic and thereby sufficient to distinguish Christian phenomena from inclusion in a higher order category, particularly Greek or Roman genera.
Is "apologetics' too strong?"

Not according to Stephen Young, Protective Strategies and the Prestige of the “Academic” : A Religious Studies and Practice Theory Redescription of Evangelical Inerrantist Scholarship, in Biblical Interpretation, 23 (2015) 1-35. In this article he identifies two types of biblical inerrantists.

1. That subset of Evangelical Christians who consider their Bible to be without error in a historical sense in all its actual claims. These scholars claim that
the Bible must be judged by “its own” standards for truth, as opposed to foisting upon it “anachronistic” or “alien” expectations for how it is true, such as seeking modern technical precision at all times.
That means we can allow for rounded numbers, hyperbole, the reporting of falsehoods, topical arrangements of narratives, etc.

2. Other inerrantists stress an understanding of literary conventions of the day and accepting the good-intentions of the authors. Only willful deception would make the Bible errant. And if literary conventions allowed for wild exaggerations and over-stressing a particular point or deliberately altering details to deliver a theological lesson, then we can assume the original audiences understood all of this, so we should too, and accept the Bible as basically meaning to tell the truth in a theological and literary sense. That is, we can accept that the authors were not really trying to tell us exactly what happened, so we can't accuse them of being errant. It's important to understand "genre" studies here. We can even call them "genre inerrantists"; if the genre of history writing allowed for making things up then we have to understand this was the understood genre and therefore the Bible is not untrue.

3. I would even add a third type of apologist inerrantist to the above two identified by Young. Those who assume that the Bible is based on and reflects at some level genuine historical events. All that is needed is to learn the right "code" or method to know how to peel away the layers of myth and legend and theology to identify the true history it really represents. To question the assumptions of these inerrantists -- the assumption that, say, the gospels are the products of historical memory -- is considered another form of blasphemy by many of these scholars.
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This might be a similar way of looking at this, how would these ancient texts fare in standard academic plagiarisation tests?
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Once again, you have to think; what is the original intent of the author, not what I want it to say today.

The writing of the gospels was not done for people of the 21st century but for the people of that time and region.

Apologists are not about ineranncy of the Bible but defending the faith from heresy and slander.

"Did the people who first told us the story of Jesus from the ancient world take the stories all literally and now we are so smart to take them symbolically? Or did they intend them symbolically and we are so dumb that we have been taking them literally?...John Crossan

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Very informative and thought-provoking post, Neil.

I'm not sure that your third category of apologists is best named "apologist inerrantist." As John T said, "Apologists are not about ineranncy of the Bible but defending the faith from heresy and slander." One might use the term "apologist" loosely when talking about scholars who hold that there was a historical Jesus, in the sense that they offer a defense, apologia, of a position. But I can't see calling them "inerrantists" if they think the gospels are laced with layers of myth and legend.

But that's a quibble. Rock on!
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Heresy. Anyone not defending the original Greek Orthodox tradition, like that heresy protestantism, are all heretics of heretics of heretics....!
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Clive wrote:Heresy. Anyone not defending the original Greek Orthodox tradition, like that heresy protestantism, are all heretics of heretics of heretics....!
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I will admit, that although a staunch atheist, I fall into Neil's suggested third category, as I am convinced that the Biblical tales (both 'OT' and 'New') were contrived with specific and consistent ulterior motives involving mathematics and geometry that are not readily apparent on any superficial reading of the mythological texts.
But only become apparent under conditions where one delves deeply into the realm of ancient Scriptural standard units of measure, scale, and proportion.
Mathematic and geometrical 'secret' knowledge, as it were, 'locked up' right in plain sight, but most, entranced by the wrappings in colorful fables, remain blind to and unable to discern that underlying 'thread', and separate the wheat from the straw.

Not intendingly insulting anyone, but pointing out that the subject of the Scriptures standards of length, measure, and proportion is one of the most overlooked, ignored, and misunderstood of all subjects in Biblical studies.
Yet this 'thread' and trope, this very precise and exacting 'building line' begins in the very beginning chapters of Genesis...
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Apologist are ignored, they have no real part in any scholarship or develop any aspect of historicity.

We all understand the value of secular methodology, to be able to weed out this pseudo history.
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John T wrote:Once again, you have to think; what is the original intent of the author, not what I want it to say today.

The writing of the gospels was not done for people of the 21st century but for the people of that time and region.
This approach is what Young defines as a form of biblical inerrantism.

Of course we need to understand what an author "wanted" to say, his/her "intention". That goes without saying. What is not said, however, when it comes to the Bible, by those who use this as an argument against critical scholarship, is that they assume that the author wanted or intended to pass on (by means of whatever conventions of their own day) historical "truth", genuine historical reports derived from reliable sources.

That's not how critical scholars treat any other text. Such intentions need to be demonstrated, not assumed. And there is much evidence from critical scholarship that speaks against this "inerrantist" assumption of many "apologists" for the Bible.
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outhouse wrote:Apologist are ignored, they have no real part in any scholarship or develop any aspect of historicity.

We all understand the value of secular methodology, to be able to weed out this pseudo history.
Classic, outhouse. You must think Hanges is an idiot and does not know what he's talking about despite his scholarly and academic status.

An apologist is one who does apologetics. Hanges is saying that most biblical scholars who write about Christian origins are doing apologetics because of their choice of methods and arguments that remove Christianity (and, by extension, Jesus and Paul) out from the normal influences of historical forces of their day and treat them as unique -- or (because the scholars are not anti-semitic) influenced by nothing other than pure conventionally understood Judaism.

Even liberal Christians, Young says, are doing the same sort of thing at least (not quite, but clearly related) when they insist (like John T above) that we must accept on faith (they use this bizarrely uncritical term "hermeneutic of charity") that the authors had the best intentions to tell us the truth by the means best known to them in their own day.

The point is to do history and textual analysis on the Bible and related literature with the same critical tools used by historians on other ancient literature. Bible scholars really very rarely do that. They assume the myth in the gospels is a code or convention of some sort that has to be peeled aside for us to see the "true history" the author wanted to convey.

What other field of history treats texts like that! That sounds like a more sophisticated from of doing a "bible code".
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