P. C. Sense, books on the third gospel and fourth gospel

[Peter Kirby]

I have recently found these two books online by a certain P. C. Sense:

A Free Enquiry Into the Origin of the Fourth Gospel (1899)
https://archive.org/details/freeenquiryintoo00sensrich
https://play.google.com/store/books/det ... tCAAAAIAAJ

A critical and historical enquiry into the origin of the third gospel (1901)
https://archive.org/details/criticalhistoric00sensrich
https://play.google.com/store/books/det ... lCAAAAIAAJ

The author attributes the fourth gospel chiefly to the writings of Cerinthus and the third gospel to the books of the Marcionites. Not only may they be interesting in themselves, but they are also interesting for being an early representative of the opinion later championed by Knox and others today.

[Peter Kirby]

Speaking of books and things, I finally broke down and got an individual subscription to Jstor, since I can no longer get access through my university. It's not completely unreasonable. For $19.50 a month I'm getting, or so they tell me, 80% of it, with a major exception of the most recent issues. Roughly the price of a gym membership or MMO subscription, but much more tempting to a certain kind of person (who already has the gym, of course). It's called "JPASS."

http://jpass.jstor.org/

I feel a bit dirty giving a free ad for these guys, who've been not too enlightened in the past about access, but I think they've got it mostly right here. Certainly it's a better bang for buck than incidental purchases of books and ebooks, for the heavy reader.

[DCHindley]

FWIW,

The "author" P. C. Sense is a pen name, meaning "Plain Common Sense," used by Bernard J. Sage, barrister, M.A.. Perhaps this sounded better than "B J Sage," which could be taken the wrong way ...

See Dictionary of Anonymous and Pseudonymous English Literature, Volume 4, by Samuel Halkett (1926-1934)

https://books.google.com/books?id=EqvJf ... or&f=false

DCH (got to go now to clean our toilet for Valentine's Day, then throw some snow which is currently coming down pretty hard ... after, of course, I cleared it earlier today)

[Peter Kirby]

Thanks, DCH, I was wondering about the funny name.

[Peter Kirby]

It's not yet complete, but I thought I should note here, in the Christian texts & history section of the forum, this substantial collection of public domain books, properly sorted out from the archive.org collection with the name of the author, title of the book, and volumes & editions in good order. It is a note at "the podium":

http://www.earlywritings.com/forum/view ... f=7&t=1338

It should be very helpful for anyone who has time to read.

[Aleph One]

Speaking of books and things, I finally broke down and got an individual subscription to Jstor, since I can no longer get access through my university. It's not completely unreasonable. For $19.50 a month I'm getting, or so they tell me, 80% of it, with a major exception of the most recent issues. Roughly the price of a gym membership or MMO subscription, but much more tempting to a certain kind of person (who already has the gym, of course). It's called "JPASS."

http://jpass.jstor.org/

I feel a bit dirty giving a free ad for these guys, who've been not too enlightened in the past about access, but I think they've got it mostly right here. Certainly it's a better bang for buck than incidental purchases of books and ebooks, for the heavy reader.

I have to say that does look interesting... .. An affordable all-in-one type journal pass would be prettty nice to me!

As someone who's spent more time and energy than need-be searching out alternative (free/non-pay walled) sources for info (mainly in the sciences, like bio/physics/maths, but history too) I can attest to the frustration of reading some tantalizing abstract only to be denied access to the actual paper, itself! I have found though, oftentimes if you visit the author's CV on their personal or university homepage (as far as for the subjects mentioned above, at least), they'll provide direct links to download their newer publishings, even if they appear in pay-walled journals. That's been very helpful for someone who's not researching for professional or academic purposes and could never afford those seemingly-exorbitant fees charged by certain publishers out there.

[Peter Kirby]

I got about halfway through the P. C. Sense book on the Gospel of John before I got tired of the tenuous assumptions and laborious, lecturing tone. All of the good bits were in the very front of the book, and the only thing I was persuaded about in terms of an interesting plausibility is that the water and blood were originally a dove and blood, as is found exactly in the Martyrdom of Polycarp, who is said there to have imitated Christ in his death (with other details adduced to support the idea).