I read in ''New discoveries in the Origin of Christianity'' by E.Walter (year: 1900, free online) this, about the origin of word Christ:
We get the correct way the word was written in
Syriac from Marcion the Gnostic, who says thus, "Be
saluted thou true image of the Gods and face of the
father, whose name consists of three letters expressing
the number 608."
(p. 83)
According this author, that ''name'' would be Chrest:
...But here comes our
surprise, for the meaning of this word, both in Hebrew
and Syriac is "liberty," "freedom "; so we are
thankful to this Gnostic, who in his mystical way,
handed down to us the true Key-Word which, at that
time, set the world afire; as well as the Missing Link
that caused the change from Jewish Messianism to
Gentile Christianity.
(p.84)
1) Do you confirm that we have evidence of these presumed words of Marcion? (If yes, where exactly?)
2) Is it true that Chrest did mean ''liberty'', ''freedom'' in Hebrew and Syriac ?
Very thanks,
Giuseppe
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
1. archaeological remains from Deir Ali dating from the beginning of the 4th century.
2. no
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
I found the original book. This person knows nothing about how words are pronounced or 'transliterated' from Hebrew to Greek. Complete nonsense.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
To be honest I don't even have a clue where he gets his ideas from. חרת is pronounced charat and means 'to dig' in Aramaic and to 'engrave' in Hebrew. WTF?
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Moreover χρηστος does not have a numerical value of 608 but 1478. Again WTF?
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Secret Alias wrote:To be honest I don't even have a clue where he gets his ideas from. חרת is pronounced charat and means 'to dig' in Aramaic and to 'engrave' in Hebrew. WTF?
I find this as possible ''explanation'' about 608:
But this is but a play upon the Hebrew letters
Jod, Cheth, and Shin, from whence the I H S as the
monogram of Christ coming down to our day, and
this reads as ^{fn^ or 381, the sum of the letters
being 318 or the number of Abraham and his Satan,
and of Joshua and his Amaiek . . . also the number
of Jacob and his antagonist . . . (Godfrey Higgins
gives the authority for the number 608) ... It is
the number of Melchizedek's name, for the value of
the last is 304 and Melchizedek was the priest of
the most high God, without beginning or ending
of days.
The solution and secret of Melchizedek are
found in the fact that
in the ancient Pantheons the two planets which had
existed from eternity (aeonic eternity) and were
eternal, were the Sun and the Moon, or Osiris and
Isis, hence the terms of without beginning or end-
ing of days. 304 multiplied by two is 608. So also
the numbers in the word Seth, who was a type of
the year. There are a number of authorities for
the number 888 as applying to the name of Jesus
Christ, and as said this is in antagonism to the 666
of the Anti-Christ. . . . The staple value in the name
of Joshua was the number 365, the indication of the
Solar year, while Jehovah delighted in being the
indication of the Lunar year — and Jesus Christ was
both Joshua and Jehovah in the Christian Pantheon.
This is but an illustration to our point to
prove that the Christian application of the
compound name Jesus-Christ is all based on
Gnostic and Eastern mysticism.
Speculative? Try confusing. No one meant any of this to be believed. For instance I H C in Christian Greek mean something. But the eighth letter in Hebrew is a consonant and in Latin (= H). The Greek equivalent eta is a vowel. חשי can mean 'silence.'
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote