Craig Evans Tries to Make Stupid Look Respectable

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^Here's the Tertullian verse in question:

Come now, you who would indulge a better curiosity, if you would apply it to the business of your salvation, run over the apostolic churches, in which the very thrones of the apostles are still pre-eminent in their places, in which their own authentic writings are read, uttering the voice and representing the face of each of them severally"

http://earlychristianwritings.com/text/ ... ian11.html

Nothing there to indicate that he's probably talking about the "original" manuscripts. Possibility is not Probability.
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I agree. Just pointing out Evans is spitting images of himself too.
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Was reading this at Barts blog.

Evens makes way to many assumptions.
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Edit:
I already read this at Bart Ehrman's blog and came away thinking that Evans makes way too many unsupported assumptions.
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Is there a word for this tactic of taking a theoretical possibility and trying to present it as a probability? If it's even remotely conceivable, it becomes an established fact. When such assumptions are stacked like this, it's like a thick head of foam on a mug of beer. It's mostly hot air.
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Diogenes the Cynic wrote:Is there a word for this tactic of taking a theoretical possibility and trying to present it as a probability? If it's even remotely conceivable, it becomes an established fact. When such assumptions are stacked like this, it's like a thick head of foam on a mug of beer. It's mostly hot air.
We used to call it petitio principii or begging the question. Lately some like to call it a possibiliter fallacy (particularly R. Carrier).
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^Let's name it. I vote for the probsible fallacy - conflating a probable from a possible.
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Diogenes the Cynic wrote:Is there a word for this tactic of taking a theoretical possibility and trying to present it as a probability? If it's even remotely conceivable, it becomes an established fact. When such assumptions are stacked like this, it's like a thick head of foam on a mug of beer. It's mostly hot air.
Only in countries where beer is served warm.

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Cargo cult scholarship. Use big words and pretend you're doing something intellectual while you steer your "research" toward pre-determined findings.
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