On Historicizing the Jesus Myth

Discussion about the New Testament, apocrypha, gnostics, church fathers, Christian origins, historical Jesus or otherwise, etc.
Robert Baird
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The whole of Romanism and Empire or the cultus known as Judaeo./Christian/Islamic continues to this day to practice all horrors and terrors including murder. The creation of the Gospels was central to the plan.

YOu are ignorant and spout your dogma almost as much as most true believers. Try to study the origins of your BELIEF and look past the destruction of prior culture. It will be harder than reading approved verbiage which paid hacks maintain.
outhouse
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Robert Baird wrote:The whole of Romanism and Empire or the cultus known as Judaeo./Christian/Islamic continues to this day to practice all horrors and terrors including murder. The creation of the Gospels was central to the plan.

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Nonsense.

This movement factually developed as the Hellenistic divorce of Judaism from cultural Judaism.


This movement was for Roman citizens and other gentiles WHO DID NOT want to be viewed as a Jew.

YOu are ignorant and spout your dogma almost as much as most true believers.


Sir, I have an education on the topic.


People like you embarrass themselves blathering complete ignorance not knowing the first thing about the topic.

My position is that of a strong atheist.

Try to study the origins



You don't have a first grade education on the topic, you don't have a right to tell anyone to study from your severe ignorance.
It will be harder than reading approved verbiage which paid hacks maintain.
Here's a clue skippy.


Ancient aliens is not a credible TV show.
outhouse
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This is a proper reply.
gmx wrote: To me, what doesn't make sense about this narrative of Christian origins is that the gospels are basically unmodified for 1800+ years from about 200CE (or what's a better date?), we are expected to believe that from 40CE-150CE the Jesus story is being constantly updated and revised and rebooted, and communities which are already established and indoctrinated in whatever yesterday's story was are happily consuming the expanded / changing narrative as it came along, and not batting and eyelid.

This above is exactly what we expect to see when we have an event take place, and multiple people with different opinions about the same thing.


The movement was wide and varied early on as the mythology and theology gained steam by people far removed from the actual events.


We also have the Hellenistic divorce from cultural Judaism. Judaism and monotheism was popular all over the Diaspora and had been for a few hundred years. It made sense to worship one all powerful god instead of multiple gods which would end up being viewed as weaker deities that only had certain powers. Or one could worship the corrupt politician the Emperor, ya no thanks.


You had people ready and primed to sign the divorce papers. The fall of the temple accelerated this divorce combined with this new version "Jewish light" based on a "son of god"


You could now worship the Emperor a corrupt politician as "son of god" or the martyred Galilean who was perceived to have sacrificed himself for the good of the people as "son of god"
Robert Baird
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"The movement" you refer to is no movement at all. The lies you buy are proven lies - and propaganda. Your sources are the lies.

Have you read Michael Grant's Rise of The Greeks? How about John Dominic Crossan and The Historical Jesus - that will only begin the process of understanding the actual intellectual systems of the prior millennium to your Jesus myth.

Then you can go back many more millennia to begin the process of understanding the Son and Sun derivations. Maybe a cursory glance at Horus and Jesus a lot of literature is about. I go into that a lot more than Horus and the Way of Horus which your Moses character was meandering around in one of his many titles - no Exodus and NO Diaspora. Maybe the Sephardic or Spanish era is a real diaspora.

But that too is a very debateable point and the Zohar written then was a fraud. Daniel Matt is re-doing it - and says it had some truth but was a fraud. Like most of the propaganda Rome stole and augmented the prior beliefs and words to make the new Empire or governance more palatable. You still eat it -= and enjoy it's excrement - so you have the correct nickname. Looking forward to you making comment on the video I put here under Know Rome. Maybe some day you can address facts rather than mere ridicule and ad hominem argumentum.
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Robert Baird wrote:"

The lies you buy are proven lies - and propaganda. Your sources are the lies.
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You don't have a clue what your even talking about.

Its why you have no credible sources.


Supply links to support your laughable position
Robert Baird
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The links are there to threads with many more. You just do not read - or are blinded by your ego which is what most academia does - me-too think.
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