AchryaS work in a multi part vid series by tinfoil hat wearing clownsMrMacSon wrote: (I haven't seen Zeitgeist, so I dunno what it's about).
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To say that the NT is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey is an ' ante-mimetic' fantasy.
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Yes but they had not divorced cultural Judaism as of that time did they? or even try.MrMacSon wrote: Hellenism had been happening for a couple of centuries, at least, before there was a mid-late 1st century to early 2nd century Judaic/Jewish diaspora.
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It is a fact MrMacSon, not bizzare.And to say the NT authors used "the OT text as it was the foundation of the movement they were trying to persuade others to join" is bizarre.
Christianity is the Hellenistic divorce of a perverted Proselyte Judaism, from the oppressed people who were real cultural Israelite Jews viewed by Romans as rebellious trouble makers.
That is why we have the NT.
That is also why you hold no credibility in your personal examples of the origins of Christianity.
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" a severe mistake on his part" - the athor of Mark? who probably wasn't the disciple Mark?outhouse wrote:There is no comparison here. Carpenter is also a severe mistake on his part.MrMacSon wrote: Here is what Macdonald has said -Like Odysseus, Jesus is a wise carpenter who suffers many
things and sails on the sea with associates who are foolish and even treacherous.
The usage of tekton in the NT is one of embarrassment as later authors try and hide the original statement made by earlier authors.
Unless he was also a disciple of Eusebius?
So the legend says. or should I have said myth rather than legend?outhouse wrote: Jesus being a peasant and teaching in a few Aramaic villages in Galilee and then making a trip to the temple where he is crucified under Pilate
bwahahahahaha Have you read what Macdonald wrote? - http://iac.cgu.edu/drm/My_Turn.pdfouthouse wrote: ... paralleled by mania ...
Your grammar is atrocious.outhouse wrote: while ignoring completely the fact Hellenist had more importance on Judaism
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No-one is saying *the NT* is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey.iskander wrote:To say that the NT is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey is an ' ante-mimetic' fantasy.
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As are your conclusions and assertions.MrMacSon wrote: Your grammar is atrocious.
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Only Mark? It is then a trivial remark not worth spending time on it.MrMacSon wrote:No-one is saying *the NT* is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey.iskander wrote:To say that the NT is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey is an ' ante-mimetic' fantasy.
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Drinking mountain mans coffee way out in left field again ?MrMacSon wrote: Unless he was also a disciple of Eusebius?
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The unknown authors/redactors/community who compiled Mark ?the athor of Mark? who probably wasn't the disciple Mark?
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It's not as simple as the few premises implied by that sentence.outhouse wrote: Christianity is the Hellenistic divorce of a perverted Proselyte Judaism, from the oppressed people who were real cultural Israelite Jews; viewed by Romans as rebellious trouble makers.
Yes, there had been Hellenism. Yes, there had been rebellion. Yes, there had been oppression.
But to say 'divorce, or imply "the oppressed people were real cultural Israelite Jews" is way too simplistic.
Yes, the stories that became part of the NT probably originated in regions where there were a lot of Jewish diaspora, but there is a lot more to it than the stuff that the outhouse excretes.
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iskander wrote:To say that the NT is a ' mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey is an ' ante-mimetic' fantasy.
MrMacSon wrote: No-one is saying 'the NT' in [it's entirety] is a 'mimetic' imitation of the Odyssey.
* Depends on what you mean by 'it'.iskander wrote: Only Mark? It* is then a trivial remark not worth spending time on it.
If you mean *it* is not worth spending time on someone trolling this thread with simple vague posts, as you are, you are right.
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