Is Christianity an oriental cargo cult?

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Clive
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Is Christianity an oriental cargo cult?

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There is no reality except in action. Man is nothing else than his plan; he exists only to the extent that he fulfills himself; he is therefore nothing else than the ensemble of his acts, nothing else than his life.”
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Paul wrote he went to a third heaven, and elsewhere about lots of witnesses to Christ's death.



Several years ago I went to Florence, Pisa and Assisi, and became aware of the classic three part structure of churches - baptistry, main church and campagnile.

The wording of the creeds and the eucharist are also of note. They are in the present tense. A huge proportion of christians believe the body and blood of christ is present during the eucharist. Your sins are forgiven.

What if it is all a more complicated cargo cult, to bring the gods to us, with special priests, special liturgies, creeds and special technologies in buildings?

The rituals, the theatrics, the facing east, the eating and drinking together, the magickal words are all intended to bring god to us and to defeat death.

Everything else, the gospels, Jesus of Nazareth, are all later just so stories.

Xianity is the rituals, especially the eucharist.

They believed they had conquered death by having communal altered states of consciousness at dawn when they truly met the risen christ.
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Christianity is a modification of the second temple system. The ugly confrontation between the Judaizers and the followers of the simple ritual and belief of the heretic Yeshu HaNotzri explains our European history.


The influence of tradition overcame the practice of the early followers of The Way, as it had been understood by Yeshu. The Holy of Holies was replicated ,aural confession, purgatory, ...

The original understanding of Chistianinty and the influence of the Judaizers is evident in in the epistles of Paul, as they are.

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As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus.”
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Later ,women were made into Haredi, Islamic entities , when the tradition partially undid the memory of the heretic man.
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"Haredi?"
Haredi are ultra-Orthodox Jews, the "new" name for Hasisdic Jews.
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make into - definition
make someone/something into something to change someone or something so that they become something else.



The women of Galatians 3: 27-28 , translated as in the accompanying photograph , were made into something very different . They were forced into the contemporary Haredy or Islamic life style . as in 1 Corinthians 14:34-36

34 women should be silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as the law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.*
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Clive wrote:
There is no reality except in action. Man is nothing else than his plan; he exists only to the extent that he fulfills himself; he is therefore nothing else than the ensemble of his acts, nothing else than his life.”
Satre


Paul wrote he went to a third heaven, and elsewhere about lots of witnesses to Christ's death.



Several years ago I went to Florence, Pisa and Assisi, and became aware of the classic three part structure of churches - baptistry, main church and campagnile.

The wording of the creeds and the eucharist are also of note. They are in the present tense. A huge proportion of christians believe the body and blood of christ is present during the eucharist. Your sins are forgiven.

What if it is all a more complicated cargo cult, to bring the gods to us, with special priests, special liturgies, creeds and special technologies in buildings?

The rituals, the theatrics, the facing east, the eating and drinking together, the magickal words are all intended to bring god to us and to defeat death.

Everything else, the gospels, Jesus of Nazareth, are all later just so stories.

Xianity is the rituals, especially the eucharist.

They believed they had conquered death by having communal altered states of consciousness at dawn when they truly met the risen christ.
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Yes, The Judaizers won the war!

"Judaizers is a term for Christians who insist that their co-religionists should follow the Law of Moses. This term is most widely known from its single use in the Greek New Testament (Galatians 2:14)[1] where Paul publicly challenges Peter for compelling gentile converts to Early Christianity to "judaize",[2] also known as the Incident at Antioch.'"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaizers

This is a good video to watch if one is interested in our past-- sort of ' the way we were.'

http://www.torahcafe.com/rabbi-cheski-e ... 9ae20.html
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Diogenes the Cynic wrote:
Has anyone ever looked into the possibility of Mark (or an ur-Mark) originating as a mystery cult initiation text? A sort of "Xenu document" if you will. A lot of it looks like it's designed to be a reveal to the audience to me, including the empty tomb and putative resurrection. The disciples never knew about it because the women ran away, but now you, young acolyte, you have received the truth.
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Clive wrote:
Diogenes the Cynic wrote:
Has anyone ever looked into the possibility of Mark (or an ur-Mark) originating as a mystery cult initiation text? A sort of "Xenu document" if you will. A lot of it looks like it's designed to be a reveal to the audience to me, including the empty tomb and putative resurrection. The disciples never knew about it because the women ran away, but now you, young acolyte, you have received the truth.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1724&start=50

What in Mark does it look " as a mystery cult initiation text"?
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