I respondedBernard Muller wrote:
I think 1 Clement, the Didache, Barnabas' epistle and Revelation, all of them written before the end of the 1st century, include gospels material, as explained here:
- http://historical-jesus.info/gospels.html#1clement (for 1 Clement, the Didache & Barnabas' epistle)
and here for Revelation: http://historical-jesus.info/rjohn.html, then search on >> gmatthew << (short read)
and I then saidre the Didache -
- You [Bernard] say [on one of your web-pages - http://historical-jesus.info/gospels.html#1clement ] -
You also say "with the wording extracted from GMatthew, "Son" was substituted by "God" in the Didache. It looks the author did not like Jesus being called "the Son of David": that would be most understandable from an Ebionite's viewpoint!"
- "Generally speaking, all gospel-like material in the Didache have parallels in GMatthew", and
"each of the gospel parallel in the Didache appears either in all the Synoptics, or in both GLuke & GMatthew only ("Q"), or solely in GMatthew"
with one exception: Ch.16 <=> Lk12:35-40 YLT
Bernard challenged me thus -
It is possible that
- the Didache originated at the same time as the Synoptics; or
that the Synoptics derived some of their information from texts like the Didache; or
the authors of the Synoptics and the author/s of the Didache developed their theology from a pre-existing theology or source
There is already a thread called The Didache hence the name of this thread.Bernard Muller wrote:
to MrMacSon,
Cordially, Bernard
- Why don't you work on these possibilities and prove that at least one of them is a probability?
- Some of the discussion there is pertinent to my point and Bernard's challenge - see the next post
From Peter Kirby's http://www.earlychristianwritings.com (where there is more commentary than what I have quoted here) -The Didache (/ˈdɪdəkiː/; Koine Greek: Διδαχή) or The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (Didachē means "Teaching")[1] is a brief anonymous early Christian treatise, dated by most modern scholars to the first century.[2] The first line of this treatise is "Teaching of the Lord to the Gentiles (or Nations) by the Twelve Apostles".[Greek: Διδαχὴ κυρίου διὰ τῶν δώδεκα ἀποστόλων τοῖς ἔθνεσιν.]
The Didache is considered part of the category of second-generation Christian writings known as the Apostolic Fathers. The work was considered by some Church Fathers as part of the New Testament,[6][7][8] while being rejected as spurious or non-canonical by others,[9][10][11] and eventually was not accepted into the New Testament canon. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church "broader canon" includes the Didascalia, a work which draws on the Didache.
- 2 a. Cross, edited by F.L. (2005). The Oxford dictionary of the Christian Church (3rd rev. ed. ed.). Oxford: OUP. p. 482.
..b. I have seen a range 50-300 AD/CE
Lost for centuries, a Greek manuscript of the Didache was rediscovered in 1873 by Philotheos Bryennios, [Greek Orthodox] Metropolitan of Nicomedia in the Codex Hierosolymitanus. A Latin version of the first five chapters was discovered in 1900 by J. Schlecht.[12]
Date, composition and modern translations
- 6 Rufinus, Commentary on Apostles Creed 37 (as Deuterocanonical) c. 380
7 John of Damascus Exact Exposition of Orthodox Faith 4.17.
8 The 81-book canon of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church
Many English and American scholars once dated the text to the late 2nd century CE,[3] a view still held today,[13] but most scholars now assign the Didache to the first century.[14][15] The document is a composite work, and the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls with its Manual of Discipline provided evidence of development over a considerable period of time, beginning as a Jewish catechetical work which was then developed into a church manual.[16] Additionally, apart from two minuscule fragments, the Greek text of the Didache has only survived in a single manuscript, the Codex Hierosolymitanus. Dating the document is thus made difficult both by the lack of hard evidence and its composite character. The Didache may have been compiled in its present form as late as 150, although a date closer to the end of the first century seems more probable to many.[17] It is an anonymous work, a pastoral manual that Aaron Milavec states "reveals more about how Jewish-Christians saw themselves and how they adapted their Judaism for gentiles than any other book in the Christian Scriptures."[4] The Two Ways section is likely based on an earlier Jewish source.[3] The community that produced the Didache was probably based in Syria.[3][18]
The text was lost, but scholars knew of it through the writing of later church fathers, some of whom had drawn heavily on it.[19] In 1873 in Istanbul, metropolitan Philotheos Bryennios found a Greek copy of the Didache, written in 1056, and he published it in 1883.[19] Hitchcock and Brown produced the first English translation in March 1884. Adolf von Harnack produced the first German translation in 1884, and Paul Sabatier produced the first French translation and commentary in 1885.[20]
- 13 Slee, Michelle (2003). The church in Antioch in the first century CE : communion and conflict. London [u.a.]: T & T Clark International. p. 58.
15 O'Loughlin, Thomas (2011). The Didache: A window on the earliest Christians. SPCK. Retrieved 2 July 2015.
From the Catholic EncylopediaJonathan Draper writes (Gospel Perspectives, vol. 5 (1985), p. 269 (pp. 268-288):
"Since it was discovered in a monastery in Constantinople and published by P. Bryennios in 1883, the Didache or Teaching of the Twelve Apostles has continued to be one of the most disputed of early Christian texts. It has been depicted by scholars as anything between the original of the Apostolic Decree (c. 50 AD) and a late archaising fiction of the early third century. It bears no date itself, nor does it make reference to any datable external event, yet the picture of the Church which it presents could only be described as primitive, reaching back to the very earliest stages of the Church's order and practice in a way which largely agrees with the picture presented by the NT, while at the same time posing questions for many traditional interpretations of this first period of the Church's life. Fragments of the Didache were found at Oxyrhyncus (P. Oxy 1782) from the fourth century and in coptic translation (P. Lond. Or. 9271) from 3/4th century. Traces of the use of this text, and the high regard it enjoyed, are widespread in the literature of the second and third centuries especially in Syria and Egypt. It was used by the compilator of the Didascalia (C 2/3rd) and the Liber Graduun (C 3/4th), as well as being absorbed in toto by the Apostolic Constitutions (C c. 3/4th, abbreviated as Ca) and partially by various Egyptian and Ethiopian Church Orders, after which it ceased to circulate independently. Athanasius describes it as 'appointed by the Fathers to be read by those who newly join us, and who wish for instruction in the word of goodness' [Festal Letter 39:7]. Hence a date for the Didache in its present form later than the second century must be considered unlikely, and a date before the end of the first century probable."
Udo Schnelle makes the following remark about the Didache (The History and Theology of the New Testament Writings, p. 355):Stevan Davies comments on the Didache (Jesus the Healer, p. 175):
- "The Didache means by 'the gospel' (8.2; 11.3; 15.3, 4) the Gospel of Matthew; thus the Didache, which originated about 110 CE, documents the emerging authority of the one great Gospel."
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/didache.html
- "The Didache is a text that gives instruction on how a Christian community should treat itinerant Christian prophets. It was written sometime in the late first or early second century and gives good evidence for a structured church's shift in orientation away from spirit-possession. The Didache is written from the view point of a community leadership that distrusts, and yet respects, Christian prophets, one that wishes the prophets to leave town as quickly as possible, yet would have them welcomed in town when they arrive. The Pastoral and Petrine epistles stem from a slightly later time, when authority in the Christian movement was based on the prerogatives of office rather than on prophetic powers."
The Didache
A short treatise which was accounted by some of the Fathers as next to Holy Scripture. It was rediscovered in 1873 by Bryennios, Greek Orthodox metropolitan of Nicomedia, in the codex from which, in 1875, he had published the full text of the Epistles of St. Clement. The title in the manuscript is Didache kyriou dia ton dodeka apostolon ethesin, but before this it gives the heading Didache ton dodeka apostolon. The old Latin translation of cc. i-v, found by Dr. J. Schlecht in 1900, has the longer title, omitting "twelve", and has a rubric De doctrinâ Apostolorum ...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04779a.htm