Discussion about the New Testament, apocrypha, gnostics, church fathers, Christian origins, historical Jesus or otherwise, etc.
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Giuseppe
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by Giuseppe » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:56 am
Ben C. Smith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:30 am
However, on the surface of things, Julian appears to be referring to
contemporaries of Tiberius and Claudius. What are the arguments in favor of the other meaning?
The fact that Cyrill
could (and
had) quote just the
Testimonium Taciteum against Julian's insistence on the absolute insignificance of Jesus among the writers
at that time.
But Cyrill did
n't.
Here the Argument from Silence is particularly
strong.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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arnoldo
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by arnoldo » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:15 pm
Regarding the meaning of the Emperor Julian’s writing in the following passage;
It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the
fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth.
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julia ... 1_text.htm
Does the phrase “fabrication of the Galileans” indicate that Galileans created the fabrication or possibly non-galileans (
romans?) created a fabrication
about Galileans?