Some suggestions on the origin of Christian Gnosticism

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Some suggestions on the origin of Christian Gnosticism

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Who became Christian AFTER the reading of a Gospel was probably destined to become a proto-Catholic Christian (because only the proto-Catholics were so hardly literalists).

But then the proto-Catholics were later than these who became Christians EVEN without reading a Gospel.

But note the contradiction:

1) the proto-Catholics were literalists (therefore outsiders, therefore late Christians) but they adored the Jewish God.

2) the Gnostics were not-literalists (therefore insiders, therefore early Christians) but they did hate the Jewish God.

A PURE AND SIMPLE FACT : The earliest Christians had to adore the Jewish God, by definition of early Christianity.

How could the Gnostics precede the proto-Catholics and though be so not-Jewish Christians ?

Someone resolves the problem by giving up to the premise 2: it is false that the Gnostics did precede the Catholics. (indeed, an apologetical move)

Someone resolves the problem by ''judaizing'' the Gnosticism: it is false that the Gnostics did hate the Jewish God (indeed, what I think and believe about Secret Alias).

A third solution is to think the “impossible”:

Some Christian Mythicists (=the early Christians) became Christian Gnostics (=haters of the Jewish God) ONLY AFTER the reading of a Gospel.

Why did they so?

Because the first Gospel was, for them, a so degrading heresy - the idea that an archangel appeared on THIS Earth - that, in order to distance TOTALLY themselves from that idea (but at the high price of accepting it), they did end to hate the same God who figured in their early myth as Father of Jesus Christ: the same Jewish God.

Their logic was: if the (invented) earthly Son is a degrading being (in virtue of the his earthly nature), then also his Father has to be a degrading being (in virtue of the his role of father of a degrading being). Solution: the apparent Father was a Demiurge. The real Father of the real Jesus was an alien God.


This means three things:

- all the readers of the first Gospel were deceived, by coming to believe virtually in a ''historical'' Jesus only after the reading of the first Gospel.

- who euhemerized Jesus was NOT a Gnostic and NOT a Proto-Catholic.

-who euhemerized Jesus provoked undirectly, by reaction after reaction, the birth of both Christian Gnosticism and Proto-Catholicism.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Re: Some suggestions on the origin of Christian Gnosticism

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...plus one:

who euhemerized Jesus KNEW that the his invention had to be rejected as degrading heresy by some of the his readers.

Therefore he couldn't be an innocent inventor: he knew that, by his first Gospel, he would have deceived an entire people: all the Christan readers of the his book.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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