...Crucified before Jerusalem was founded...

[Bernard Muller]

It is false. In 1 Corinthians Paul says that the preaching of a crucified Messiah is a scandal for the Jews. And the Jews are within Zion.

Zion means Jewish Palestine, or sometimes the Jews living there.

Cordially, Bernard

[Giuseppe]

There is a third possibility, besides Carrier's and Price's.

These passages suggest
that the incarnate savior figure in The Revelation of Adam, “That Human
Being” who performs signs and wonders and provokes the wrath
of the rulers, is also Jesus. After all, Adam prophesies that the rulers
“will chastise the flesh of the human being upon whom the holy spirit
has come” (Ap. Adam 77:1– 18).

(David Brakke, The Gnostics, p. 68, my bold)

According to Brakke,

The Apocalypse of Adam is a good example because it doesn’t mention Jesus at all, at least overtly. I still think, though, that this human being the Rulers were chastising his flesh could be a reference to Jesus

http://ovalpike.com/the-true-identity-o ... -brakke-2/

For Brakke the Gnostics were Christians just as Paul and the Pillars.

If Brakke is right, then there is really continuity between the ancient Christian myth and these words of Hippolytus about the Primal Man (=Jesus) killed before the creation of the world:

The expression "rock," he says, he uses of Adam. This, he affirms, is Adam: "The chief corner-stone become the head of the corner. For that in the head the substance is the formative brain from which the entire family is fashioned. "Whom," he says, "I place as a rock at the foundations of Zion." Allegorizing, he says, he speaks of the creation of the man. The rock is interposed (within) the teeth, as Homer says, "enclosure of teeth," that is, a wall anti fortress, in which exists the inner man, who thither has fallen from Adam, the primal man above. And he has been "severed without hands to effect the division," and has been borne down into the image of oblivion, being earthly and clayish.

[Giuseppe]

Here ''Jesus'' is meant behind ''that person'' or ''human being'' or Anthropos:

Then the god of the powers is disturbed and says, “What is the power of this person who is higher than we are?” Then he brings a great wrath against that person. And glory withdraws and lives in holy houses it has chosen for itself. The powers do not see it with their eyes, nor do they see the illuminator. They punish the flesh of the one over whom the holy spirit has come.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/adam-barnstone.html

It remembers the original Ascension of Isaiah and, naturally, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 :

Then he brings a great wrath against that person.

The powers do not see it with their eyes, nor do they see the illuminator.

Therefore it is evidence that really some Gnostics believed to the celestial death of Jesus/Primal Man.