Who laid the blame of "original sin" upon Adam?

[Garon]

Watch this guy part 1 &2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_IS8LwjMQ

[iskander]

Watch this guy part 1 &2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_IS8LwjMQ

'the original sin has nothing to do with sex.' What does Rocco say about the original sin?

[iskander]

Is there any biblical reason that one can point to (particularly meaning here from the perspective of a God issued directive or edict ...) to accuse Adam of "original sin"?

I.E., do we all sin and/or have an inherent sin nature merely because Adam sinned first?

What do you mean by " original sin"?

[Garon]

Watch this guy part 1 &2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_IS8LwjMQ

'the original sin has nothing to do with sex.' What does Rocco say about the original sin?

You didnt watch the videos.

[lsayre]

What do you mean by " original sin"?

The idea that all of mankind has inherited the stain of a sin nature that is with us from conception and comes to us through Adam.

[iskander]

Watch this guy part 1 &2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP_IS8LwjMQ

'the original sin has nothing to do with sex.' What does Rocco say about the original sin?

You didnt watch the videos.

True , The title put me off. Ok , which one should I watch?

[iskander]

What do you mean by " original sin"?

The idea that all of mankind has inherited the stain of a sin nature that is with us from conception and comes to us through Adam.

In the Orthodox Church the ‘original sin’ does not exist. The Orthodox Church considers the doctrine of the original sin to be a late heresy originating with Augustine of Hippo.

The Orthodox Church teaches that we are baptized to become members of the Body of Christ. Augustine redefined Baptism; Augustine taught that baptism was instituted to wash away original sin, the guilt we inherited at conception.


An informed Catholic summary: INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS
WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED*

1.2. The Greek Fathers

11. The idea of an inheritance of sin or guilt - common in Western tradition - was foreign to this perspective, since in their view sin could only be a free, personal act

14. On the one hand, these Greek Fathers teach that children who die without Baptism do not suffer eternal damnation

1.3. The Latin Fathers

15. The fate of unbaptised infants first became the subject of sustained theological reflection in the West during the anti-Pelagian controversies of the early 5th century.

16. In countering Pelagius, Augustine was led to state that infants who die without Baptism are consigned to hell.... Why are little children brought to the baptismal font, especially infants in danger of death, if not to assure them entrance into the Kingdom of God? Why are they subjected to exorcisms and exsufflations if they do not have to be delivered from the devil?

17..... Those who are not baptized cannot enter the Kingdom of God. At the judgement, those who do not enter the Kingdom (Mt 25:34) will be condemned to hell (Mt 25:41). There is no “middle ground” between heaven and hell. “There is no middle place left, where you can put babies”.[31] Anyone “who is not with Christ must be with the devil”.[32]

18. God is just. If he condemns unbaptised children to hell, it is because they are sinners... These infants were unable to help themselves, but there is no injustice in their condemnation because all belong to “the same mass”, the mass destined for perdition. God does no injustice to those who are not elected, for all deserve hell.[36]

19. The Council of Carthage of 418 rejected the teaching of Pelagius. It condemned the opinion that infants “do not contract from Adam any trace of original sin, which must be expiated by the bath of regeneration that leads to eternal life”.

20. So great was Augustine's authority in the West, however, that the Latin Fathers (e.g., Jerome, Fulgentius, Avitus of Vienne, and Gregory the Great) did adopt his opinion. Gregory the Great asserts that God condemns even those with only original sin on their souls; even infants who have never sinned by their own will must go to “everlasting torments”. He cites Job 14:4-5 (LXX), John 3:5, and Ephesians 2:3 on our condition at birth as “children of wrath”.[42]

1.5. The Modern/Post-Tridentine Era

26. Augustine's thought enjoyed a revival in the 16th century, and with it his theory regarding the fate of unbaptised infants, as Robert Bellarmine, for example, bears witness.[51]
One consequence of this revival of Augustinianism was Jansenism. Together with Catholic theologians of the Augustinian school, the Jansenists vigorously opposed the theory of Limbo. During this period the popes (Paul III, Benedict XIV, Clement XIII)[52] defended the right of Catholics to teach Augustine's stern view that infants dying with original sin alone are damned and punished with the perpetual torment of the fire of hell, though with the “mildest pain” (Augustine) compared with what was suffered by adults who were punished for their mortal sins.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congr ... ts_en.html
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[Garon]

No original "sin" in Semitic teachings. Both videos are good to watch.

[iskander]

No original "sin" in Semitic teachings. Both videos are good to watch.

Christianity, Islam, and Judaism all of them speak of the ' consequences of the behaviour of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden' , and of he need to be redeemed ( forgiven,etc) in order to go back to the Garden.

Since Augustine of Hippo the Roman (Latin Fathers ) Church understood these consequences to include the most vile Doctrine of the Original Sin.


I will listen to Rocco,

[rakovsky]

Is there any biblical reason that one can point to (particularly meaning here from the perspective of a God issued directive or edict ...) to accuse Adam of "original sin"?

I.E., do we all sin and/or have an inherent sin nature merely because Adam sinned first?

Judaism teaches Adam committed the "original" sin by disobeying God's instructions.
Augustine added on the belief about the PERSONAL GUILT of that sin being passed down biologically.

In Christian Tradition, the Messiah is a "New Adam" who atones for Adam's "original sin".