Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
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Secret Alias
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Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
No but atheists can't convince the rabble to behave themselves because atheism can't create binding social covenants. Smart people have always lived in a bubble.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
True. This seems to be the same view of Michel Onfray, in his recent Decadence.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... e-et-fall/
But even conceding the role of the religion in binding social covenants etc etc, Onfray remains strongly critical of the religion in general, and of the Christianity in particular.
It is ''the rabble'' to decide which religion has to triumph. And I don't see why ''the smart people'' have to prove ''respect'' or ''empathy'' about what it is decided by the ''not-smart people''.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... e-et-fall/
But even conceding the role of the religion in binding social covenants etc etc, Onfray remains strongly critical of the religion in general, and of the Christianity in particular.
It is ''the rabble'' to decide which religion has to triumph. And I don't see why ''the smart people'' have to prove ''respect'' or ''empathy'' about what it is decided by the ''not-smart people''.
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Secret Alias
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The smart people need religion to help control the ignorant
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
Do you think that Christianity has now achieved the right balance? More control or less ?Secret Alias wrote:The smart people need religion to help control the ignorant
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Secret Alias
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Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
Christianity is nearly irrelevant in contemporary world culture except among the aged.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
So, which religion is "controlling the ignorant"?Secret Alias wrote:Christianity is nearly irrelevant in contemporary world culture except among the aged.
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Secret Alias
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Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
Fracturing is resulting from the slow death of religion.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
No religion is "controlling the ignorant" in the Christian world, you seem to be saying. Is that what you say?Secret Alias wrote:Fracturing is resulting from the slow death of religion.
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Secret Alias
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Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
Provide intellectual distraction from the meaninglessness of existence for the elites, control the masses with superstition. The two functions of religion.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
Re: Without the Church the World Will Destroy Itself
Thank you SA,
Why do you think that so many Christians -- not all of them-- are obsessed with proving that the coming of Christ was prophesised by these people?
Numbers 31
16These women here, on Balaam’s advice, made the Israelites act treacherously against the Lord in the affair of Peor, so that the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. 17Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. 18But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves
Why do you think that so many Christians -- not all of them-- are obsessed with proving that the coming of Christ was prophesised by these people?
Numbers 31
16These women here, on Balaam’s advice, made the Israelites act treacherously against the Lord in the affair of Peor, so that the plague came among the congregation of the Lord. 17Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. 18But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves