Proofs That Jesus Existed

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by MrMacSon » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:32 pm

hakeem, this thread is satire.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by Peter Kirby » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:30 pm

MrMacSon wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:32 pm
hakeem, this thread is satire.
ARGUMENT FROM MISUNDERSTOOD SATIRE

1. If arguments intended as satire get taken seriously, then the conclusion must hold merit.
2. Arguments for Jesus intended as satire get taken seriously.
3. Therefore, Jesus existed.
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by JoeWallack » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:06 pm

ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EVIDENCE History For Atheists

1) There is no evidence that Jesus did not exist.

2) Therefore, Jesus existed.

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Argument from non-existence

Post by spin » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:42 am

1. If Jesus did not exist, from the start people would have been lining up to ridicule the religion as being based on nothing.
2. No-one in the first centuries lined up to ridicule christianity for it having been based on nothing.
3. Therefore christianity must have been based on something, which can only have been Jesus.
4. Therefore, Jesus existed.
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by Secret Alias » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:49 am

Spin, that one actually sounds like an argument McGrath and others might have used as a serious argument.
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by spin » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:04 am

Great minds think alike??
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Argument from atheism

Post by spin » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:59 am

1. Atheists claim Jesus did not exist.
2. Everyone knows that atheists are wrong about everything.
3. Therefore, Jesus existed.
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by JoeWallack » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:01 am

ARGUMENT FROM NON-CHRISTIAN REFERENCES TO JESUS AS HISTORICAL FIGURE History For Atheists

1) Non-Christians reference Jesus as a historical figure.

2) Therefore, Jesus existed.

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Argument From The Unexpected

Post by JoeWallack » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:33 am

ARGUMENT FROM THE UNEXPECTED

1) Confucius, Socrates and Isaac Asimov walk into a bar.

2) The Bartender says what the bartender says

3) Therefore, Jesus existed.

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Re: Argument From The Unexpected

Post by Kunigunde Kreuzerin » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:10 pm

JoeWallack wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:33 am
2) The Bartender says what the bartender says
Argument from what the bartenders said

1. All those who had a clue said it.
The Christians said it (the Gospels).
The Jews said it (the Talmud).
The Romans said it (Tacitus).
The Greeks said it (Lucian).
The Syrians said it (Mara bar Sarapion).
The Mandaeans said it (Drāšā D-Yaḥyā).
The Arabs said it (Qur'ān).
2.That's quite a lot, you street drinkers :cheers:
3. Therefore Jesus existed.

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