Proofs That Jesus Existed
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Wow, somebody needs to get a sense of humor.
“The only sensible response to fragmented, slowly but randomly accruing evidence is radical open-mindedness. A single, simple explanation for a historical event is generally a failure of imagination, not a triumph of induction.” William H.C. Propp
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM GOODACRE'S EDITORIAL FATIGUE THEORY
(1) No one has presented an argument here since April 15, 2014
(2) The only possible reason that there have been no more arguments here is because Jesus existed.
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed
(1) No one has presented an argument here since April 15, 2014
(2) The only possible reason that there have been no more arguments here is because Jesus existed.
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM AUTHORITY
(1) Some people are suggesting that Jesus did not exist.
(2) These people are clearly wrong.
(3) Therefore Jesus existed
(1) Some people are suggesting that Jesus did not exist.
(2) These people are clearly wrong.
(3) Therefore Jesus existed
A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM BAYES
(1) Bayes Theorem is never wrong
(2) GIGO
(3) Therefore Jesus existed
(1) Bayes Theorem is never wrong
(2) GIGO
(3) Therefore Jesus existed
A "cobbler of fables" [Augustine]; "Leucius is the disciple of the devil" [Decretum Gelasianum]; and his books "should be utterly swept away and burned" [Pope Leo I]; they are the "source and mother of all heresy" [Photius]
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM THE SUSPENSION OF THE LAWS OF LOGICAL IMPLICATION AND NON-CONTRADICTION
1. It is impossible to prove by logic that Jesus existed.
2. God exists
3. God can do anything.
4. God from time-to-time can abolish the Laws of Logical Implication and Non-Contradiction at his whim, but also re-instate them at his whim.
5. The belief that Jesus existed fits into the gap in one of these periods of abolition and reinstatement.
6. Logical propositions are irrelevant to the question of Jesus' existence.
7. Therefore Jesus existed.
(Nos. 2-4 of these assertions are the gist of an argument by an evangelical I read online yesterday. If pressed I think he might have claimed 5 was true too. He did of course take advantage of the fact that the laws of logic are not *at the moment* suspended to make this argument.).
1. It is impossible to prove by logic that Jesus existed.
2. God exists
3. God can do anything.
4. God from time-to-time can abolish the Laws of Logical Implication and Non-Contradiction at his whim, but also re-instate them at his whim.
5. The belief that Jesus existed fits into the gap in one of these periods of abolition and reinstatement.
6. Logical propositions are irrelevant to the question of Jesus' existence.
7. Therefore Jesus existed.
(Nos. 2-4 of these assertions are the gist of an argument by an evangelical I read online yesterday. If pressed I think he might have claimed 5 was true too. He did of course take advantage of the fact that the laws of logic are not *at the moment* suspended to make this argument.).
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
ARGUMENT FROM AMERICAN EVANGELISM
(1) Telling people that God exists makes me filthy rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
(1) Telling people that God exists makes me filthy rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Possibly via "who moved the stone"Blood wrote:ARGUMENT FROM THE WOMEN NOT BEING ALLOWED TO TESTIFY IN COURT
(1) The gospels say women discovered Jesus's body
(2) The story cannot possibly be invented because women's testimony was not allowed in court
(3) I have no idea why I brought up courts
(4) Therefore, Jesus existed.
I believe William Lane Craig has used this one a lot.
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Argument from William Blake
William Blake wrote that Jesus came to England
When Scotland leaves Jerusalem will become the English National Anthem
England will become a socialist paradise
Therefore Jesus existed
William Blake wrote that Jesus came to England
When Scotland leaves Jerusalem will become the English National Anthem
England will become a socialist paradise
Therefore Jesus existed
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Argument from Glastonbury
Jesus went to Glastonbury
Arthur and Guinevere are buried there
There is an incredibly successful rock concert there
Therefore Jesus existed
Jesus went to Glastonbury
Arthur and Guinevere are buried there
There is an incredibly successful rock concert there
Therefore Jesus existed
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed
Argument from Dali
Dali painted a very famous picture of Jesus, now in Glasgow
Dali used a medieval artist as a model
Dali knew Disney and used his studios to set up the scene for the painting
Therefore Jesus existed
Dali painted a very famous picture of Jesus, now in Glasgow
Dali used a medieval artist as a model
Dali knew Disney and used his studios to set up the scene for the painting
Therefore Jesus existed
"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"