Proofs That Jesus Existed

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by Secret Alias » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:08 pm

Good one.
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by arnoldo » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:47 pm

Peter Kirby wrote:1) The technological singularity is predicted by futurists.
2) A possible technology is time travel.
3) Therefore, there will be time travel.
4) The western world has many committed Christians.
5) Christians will time travel.
6) If Jesus did not exist, Christians will create him in the past.
7) Therefore, Jesus existed.
This is the premise of Behold the Man a novel written by Michael Moorcock.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by MrMacSon » Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:41 am

Peter Kirby wrote:
[a] If Jesus did not exist, Christians will create him in the past.
Lena Einhorn argued the templates weren't too far in the future - http://lenaeinhorn.se/wp-content/upload ... .11.25.pdf
[c] so it was easy to go back to the future
[d] to create him in the recent past
[e] Jesus will come back in the future
[f] so Jesus will prove that he existed

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by JoeWallack » Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:49 am

JW:
Now up at The New Porphyry Blog:

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Enjoy! And, as Dino used to say, "Keep those cards and letters."


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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by JoeWallack » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:06 am

ARGUMENT FROM Exploring Our Matrix - Atheism Disproved

(1) Cats exist.

(2) Ancient Egyptians (as well as some current cat owners) worship cats as gods.

(3) Therefore, gods exist.

(4) Jesus was/is/will be a god.

(5) Therefore, Jesus existed.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by outhouse » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:54 am

JoeWallack wrote:
(1) Cats exist.

(2) Ancient Egyptians (as well as some current cat owners) worship cats as gods.

(3) Therefore, gods exist.

(4) Jesus was/is/will be a god.

(5) Therefore, Jesus existed.

Non sequitur.

All credible scholars claim mythology developed around the martyrdom


The same way it does not disprove atheism, it does not disprove jesus the man.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by outhouse » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:57 am


These are worthless on all counts either way.

They are great examples of terribly poor arguments for his existence.

Typical for apologist who really have no credibility here.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by Secret Alias » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:01 am

You get that this is a 'tongue in cheek' thread right?
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by outhouse » Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:39 pm

Secret Alias wrote:You get that this is a 'tongue in cheek' thread right?
Bored ;)

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Feminist proofs that Jesus existed

Post by spin » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:52 am

A.

[1] In the ancient male dominated narrative context, women are only mentioned when they have to be mentioned.
[2] The only reason the women at the tomb were mentioned is that they had to be mentioned.
[3] The only reason they had to have been mentioned is because they alone witnessed the empty tomb after burial.
[4] Their witness of Jesus and his emptied tomb has to have been real.
[5] Therefore Jesus must have existed.


B.

[1] Women have a better grasp on reality than men.
[2] The gospels say that several women knew Jesus (including his mother).
[3] If they said they knew him, who are men to disagree?
[4] Therefore Jesus existed.


C.

[1] Jesus is just a man (according to Mary Magdalene).
[2] Despite this many women accept his existence.
[3] This is a bitter fact for feminists (who ask why he had the operation).
[4] Therefore Jesus existed.
Dysexlia lures • ⅔ of what we see is behind our eyes

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