Proofs That Jesus Existed

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bcedaifu wrote:
outhouse wrote:There Is no tie to any Christian activity what so ever other then a date. A coin dated to 29 is the only tie they mention
NO. WRONG.
There is no evidence of a first century practice of Christianity. The coin is evidence only of the first century TPQ. There is no connection to Christianity, whatsoever, point finale.
http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/edu ... eting.html
Writing "other than a date", suggests that the date of the coin conforms to the date when Christianity existed.
You need to pay attention a bit closer.


I did not make a claim it did tie. :? I only stated THEY made a claim using a date, and their tie a coin. :goodmorning:
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ARGUMENT FROM THE UNLIKELY

(1) ATM (a TM) has argued that Apologists have argued that it is unlikely that the anonymous author of the original Gospel would have falsely reported that women were the first witnesses not to see Jesus being crucified from a viewable distance in the dark, not being able to identify the corpus because it was wrapped in linen and showing up at the tomb a day later to witness nothing and witness that they saw nothing as part of a larger pericope with a primary point of the impossible:

Why the women as first witnesses?

(2) It is likely that women were the first witnesses to nothing here because it is unlikely.

(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.
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ARGUMENT FROM LYING

(1) Bill O'Reilly is a liar.

(2) O'Reilly says in Killing Jesus that he was the Young Man reporting from the Tomb.

(3) O'Reilly would not have lied about being at the Tomb unless there really was a Tomb.

(4) There is no ARGUMENT FROM THE UNLIKELY post # 30414 here.

(5) Therefore, Jesus existed.
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ARGUMENT FROM IF

(1) Bart Ehrman writes:

http://ehrmanblog.org/what-can-we-know- ... -of-jesus/
If we are looking for gist memories that appear to be true to historical reality among these materials, most scholars would agree with at least the following.
(2) Bart Ehrman later writes in the exact same article:
If these gist memories are accurate, we have a fair outline of information about the man Jesus himself during his public life, beginning with his baptism by John.
(3) Therefore, Jesus existed.
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ARGUNENT FROM BALONEY
I like baloney.

Jesus is made up holy baloney.

Therefore the holy baloney that is Jesus existed.

Praise the holy baloney and pass the Jesus!
Praise Jesus and pass the holy baloney!
Amen.
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ARGUMENT FROM THE MATRIX TIME TRAVEL

(1) 2011 - No qualified professional believes in MJ.

(2) 2012 - No qualified professional believes in MJ except for 1 PhD student with a Bible related degree.

(3) 2013 - No qualified professional believes in MJ except for 1 University professor with a Bible related degree.

(4) 2014 - No qualified professional believes in MJ except for 2 University professors with Bible related degrees.

(5) 2015 - No qualified professional believes in MJ except for 3 University professors with Bible related degrees.

(6) On Fight Club's longest possible time line, belief in HJ than goes to -0-.

(6) Therefore, Jesus existed.
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ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY ;)

1. Dr. Carrier claimed, that Paul glorified a JESUS, because Philo of Alexandria identified (LLX-)Zechariah’s Anatole, who is JESUS OF JOSEDEK, with the Logos, the image of God, his firstborn and his eldest son.
2. The forum questioned that claim, especially that Zechariah’s Anatole is Jesus of Josedek und that Philo understood this.
3. Dr. Carrier: “It’s absurd to conclude that he meant someone else.”
4. ...
5. Therefore, Jesus existed.
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Nietzsche once said that the best way to win an argument is make a bad argument for the other side ...
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Jesus couldn't have existed
Therefore he didn't
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1) The technological singularity is predicted by futurists.
2) A possible technology is time travel.
3) Therefore, there will be time travel.
4) The western world has many committed Christians.
5) Christians will time travel.
6) If Jesus did not exist, Christians will create him in the past.
7) Therefore, Jesus existed.
"... almost every critical biblical position was earlier advanced by skeptics." - Raymond Brown
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