Proofs That Jesus Existed

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Jax
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Re: Argument From Unique Agreement

Post by Jax » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:01 am

JoeWallack wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:32 am
ARGUMENT FROM UNIQUE AGREEMENT

1. The Editorial Board for The Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus "disagree on just about everything when it comes to Jesus and the sources pertaining to him".
2. All The Board agrees though "that (1) Jesus existed and (2) people who deny his existence are cranks or bad-historians".
3. Therefore, Jesus existed.
Judge: In the case of HJ verses MJ, your witness Mr. Bird:

Bird: We disagree on just about everything when it comes to Jesus and the sources pertaining to him. However, what we all agree on is that (1) Jesus existed and (2) people who deny his existence are cranks or bad-historians.

Judge: Mr. Carrier?

Carrier: No further questions your Honor. The offense rests its case.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by arnoldo » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:15 am

1. December 25, year zero is the birth date of Jesus.
2. Therefore Jesus existed.

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ARGUMENT FROM LOST ENDING OF ARGUMENT

Post by JoeWallack » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:46 pm

ARGUMENT FROM LOST ENDING OF ARGUMENT

1. A fragment from the Gospel of Mark has been discovered.
2. This fragment is almost certainly from the first century according to a world renowned papyrologist who is not a fundamentalist.
3. This means that the original Gospel of Mark was written during the lifetime of Jesus' disciples.
4. In 2018...
5. Therefore Jesus existed.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by John T » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:35 am

Argument from hate

1. Ashiests hate Jesus.
2. You can't hate something that doesn't exist.
3. Therefore, Jesus exists.
"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."...Jonathan Swift

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Argument From Excessive Adjectives

Post by JoeWallack » Sat May 25, 2019 5:44 pm

ARGUMENT FROM EXCESSIVE ADJECTIVES

1. Per Historicity[regarding the baptism of Jesus]:
Most modern scholars believe
view it as a historical event
a high degree of certainty can be assigned
these two facts "rank so high
'almost impossible to doubt or deny' scale of historical facts"
often the starting points for the study of the historical Jesus
it is historically certain that Jesus was baptised by John in the Jordan
2. If Jesus was baptized then Jesus existed.

3. Therefore Jesus existed.

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by davidlau17 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:07 pm

Argument from Book Publishing Industry

1. People prefer accurate history books.
2. The Bible is the #1 best-seller of all time.
3. The Bible says Jesus existed.
4. Therefore Jesus existed.
I always felt that a scientist owes the world only one thing, and that is the truth as he sees it. - Hans Eysenck

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by davidlau17 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:18 pm

Argument from Mel Gibson

1. Jesus would have spoken in Aramaic, not Greek.
2. In my movie, Jesus speaks in Aramaic.
3. Therefore Jesus existed.
I always felt that a scientist owes the world only one thing, and that is the truth as he sees it. - Hans Eysenck

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by davidlau17 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:23 pm

Argument from Thomas Jefferson

1. Miracles are unlikely.
2. I cut out all miracles from the New Testament using scissors.
3. Therefore Jesus existed.
I always felt that a scientist owes the world only one thing, and that is the truth as he sees it. - Hans Eysenck

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Re: Proofs That Jesus Existed

Post by davidlau17 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:30 pm

Argument from a coloring book

1. Dinosaurs existed.
2. We include a drawing of Jesus riding a dinosaur.
3. Therefore Jesus existed.
I always felt that a scientist owes the world only one thing, and that is the truth as he sees it. - Hans Eysenck

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Argument From Gospel Details That Can Only Be Explained By Jesus Existing

Post by JoeWallack » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:55 am

ARGUMENT FROM GOSPEL DETAILS THAT CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED BY JESUS EXISTING

Was Jesus a Historical Figure?

1. It's a fact that the Gospels contain details that can only be explained if Jesus was historical.
2. Therefore Jesus existed.

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