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Where are you in the following table?

http://www.egodeath.com/ScholarViewsHis ... ulAuth.htm

I am in the cell "5-3".
I think that it is necessary and very useful the distinction between "4-3" and "5-3".
Nihil enim in speciem fallacius est quam prava religio. -Liv. xxxix. 16.
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Giuseppe wrote:Where are you in the following table?

http://www.egodeath.com/ScholarViewsHis ... ulAuth.htm

I am in the cell "5-3".
I think that it is necessary and very useful the distinction between "4-3" and "5-3".
You think that "the Paul of the Acts is the solid base of the Paulina" ("but also heretical schools contributed")? That surprises me a bit.
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The historical Paul was a Jew adorer of YHWH, ok, and a later Christian than the Pillars (in this sense Acts is "solid base") but the epistles were also interpolated later by both Gnostics and Catholics in a such manner that we may even not realize fully.
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Left hand side, left column for me: 2-4
Right hand side, top row for me: 1-2

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Giuseppe wrote:Where are you in the following table?

http://www.egodeath.com/ScholarViewsHis ... ulAuth.htm
Matrix of Scholars' Views on Historical Jesus and Pauline Authenticity
1. There was a Historical Jesus who is identical with the Christ of Faith
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Our new thread "Jesus and Joshua" could lead to the idea that there were some historical Christs and a Jesus of Faith :ugeek:
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What are the scholarly credentials of Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, or Acharya S. that allows them to be considered scholars in the poll?

This appears to be a push-poll (shaming) based on false premises by mysticists. :facepalm:
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John T wrote:What are the scholarly credentials of Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, or Acharya S. that allows them to be considered scholars in the poll?

This appears to be a push-poll (shaming) based on false premises by mysticists. :facepalm:
I am not sure what that second sentence means, but the table also inserts some even more questionable names into box 1-1. Mel Gibson? (Jerry) Falwell? Pat Robertson? (Jack?) van Impe? (Hank) Hanegraaf? Shmuel Boteach? (Aloisius) Ratzinger? An actor director, some televangelists, an apologist critical of the faith healing movement, a spiritual advisor to Michael Jackson, and a Pope....
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Ben C. Smith wrote:
John T wrote:What are the scholarly credentials of Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, or Acharya S. that allows them to be considered scholars in the poll?

This appears to be a push-poll (shaming) based on false premises by mysticists. :facepalm:
I am not sure what that second sentence means, but the table also inserts some even more questionable names into box 1-1. Mel Gibson? (Jerry) Falwell? Pat Robertson? (Jack?) van Impe? (Hank) Hanegraaf? Shmuel Boteach? (Aloisius) Ratzinger? An actor director, some televangelists, an apologist critical of the faith healing movement, a spiritual advisor to Michael Jackson, and a Pope....
Did those above listed evangelists and Hollywood entertainers actually take the poll?
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John T wrote:
Ben C. Smith wrote:
John T wrote:What are the scholarly credentials of Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy, or Acharya S. that allows them to be considered scholars in the poll?

This appears to be a push-poll (shaming) based on false premises by mysticists. :facepalm:
I am not sure what that second sentence means, but the table also inserts some even more questionable names into box 1-1. Mel Gibson? (Jerry) Falwell? Pat Robertson? (Jack?) van Impe? (Hank) Hanegraaf? Shmuel Boteach? (Aloisius) Ratzinger? An actor director, some televangelists, an apologist critical of the faith healing movement, a spiritual advisor to Michael Jackson, and a Pope....
Did those above listed evangelists and Hollywood entertainers actually take the poll?
What poll?
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Ben C. Smith wrote:What poll?
Poll, table, survey, questionnaire, what ever you want to call it.

Did those evangelists and/or Hollywood entertainers actually read the table and check the appropriate box and turn it in to the pollster or did someone else (Klaus Schilling) pigeon hole them (make it up) without their permission? :roll:
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