Tertullian's Praescriptione = Irenaeus's προστάγμασι
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Re: Tertullian's Praescriptione = Irenaeus's προστάγμασι
No that's cool. It's 12:40 am. Thanks for your input
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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Tertullian's Adversus Marcionem was Derived from Irenaeus's
Tertullian later made use, in his Adversus Marcionem, of both Justin and Irenaeus as sources;4 the same material is also to be found in Adversus Judaeos.
4. G. Quispel, De bronnen van Tertullianus' Adversus Marcionem, Leiden 1943, 139–140 https://books.google.com/books?id=qA2vC ... oQ6AEIJzAA
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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Much of Adversus Marcionem Book 1 Comes from Irenaeus
"... in Adversus Marcionem I (Tertullian used) Irenaeus ..." https://books.google.com/books?id=X0miG ... 8Q6AEIJzAA
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“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Justin and Irenaeus the Sources for Adv Marc 3 and Adv Iud
In the second part of the third book Justin is Tert.'s only authority; besides, Irenaeus has been consulted for certain passages (Quispel, op. cit., 56/79), as is also the case in De anima, but this method is altogether different from a continuous consultation of two rather similar works. ... https://books.google.com/books?id=X0miG ... YQ6AEIJzAA
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“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Tertullian's De Anima Comes from Justin and Irenaeus
In the second part of the third book Justin is Tert.'s only authority; besides, Irenaeus has been consulted for certain passages (Quispel, op. cit., 56/79), as is also the case in De anima, but this method is altogether different from a continuous consultation of two rather similar works. ... https://books.google.com/books?id=X0miG ... YQ6AEIJzAA
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Re: Adversus Marcionem Book 1 Comes from Irenaeus
Parenthetically, it is clear that T had a detailed knowledge of" Irenaeus' work, for he also cites or quotes 24 Irenaeus in Adv. Marc. l and often in De an. https://books.google.com/books?id=-UlFA ... 0Q6AEIJzAA
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Re: Tertullian's De Anima Comes from Justin and Irenaeus
Parenthetically, it is clear that T had a detailed knowledge of" Irenaeus' work, for he also cites or quotes 24 Irenaeus in Adv. Marc. l and often in De an. https://books.google.com/books?id=-UlFA ... 0Q6AEIJzAA
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Tertullian's Adversus Valentinianos is Stolen from Irenaeus
Adversus Valentinianos (entirely founded on Irenaeus) https://books.google.com/books?id=gidKA ... us&f=false
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
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Re: Tertullian's De Anima Comes from Justin and Irenaeus
Tert's theory of souls being formed by pieces of the parents souls breaking off and merging shows an jnterest in "science" wholly alien to Justin, so no.
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Re: The Source for Adversus Marcionem 3 and Adversus Iudaeos
The latter book (Book Three of Adversus Haereses) draws on Justin and Irenaeus for much of its argument.33 https://books.google.com/books?id=aepYp ... us&f=false
“Finally, from so little sleeping and so much reading, his brain dried up and he went completely out of his mind.”
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote