Christi Fabula: Erasmus the First Mythicist?

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Re: Christi Fabula: Erasmus the First Mythicist?

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Secret Alias wrote:Erasmus had used the expression 'totius Christi fabulae' in Methodus lb v 91c/Holborn 209, but had been attacked by Bede for his use of it in his paraphrase on Mark 11:7, where he says of the details of the entry into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday: 'The apostles played a supporting role in this act [fabula], even though they did not understand its meaning' (lb vii 243b/cwe 49 136). Erasmus' use of fabula and his exchange with B ́eda are discussed by Peter G. Bietenholz Historia and Fabula: Myths and Legends in Historical Thought from Antiquity to the Modern Age (Leiden 1994) 147–8; Georges Chantraine 'Mystere' et 'Philosophie de Christ' selon Erasme Bibliotheque de la faculte de philosophie et lettres de namur 49 (Gembloux 1971) 274–95 discusses Erasmus' use of the expression 'Christi Fabula.' In 1512 a heretic named Herman Ruissvich was burned to death in The Hague after being found guilty by an inquisitor of returning to various erroneous opinions and scandalous actions he had abjured in 1499, among which was that 'he traduced the Christian Faith as a fabula, and similarly the books of the Old Testament and Gospel of the New Law'; see Duplessy Collectio judiciorum i-2 342. By using the term fabula Erasmus was opening himself to misunderstanding. https://books.google.com/books?id=SvGbi ... 22&f=false
There was a time when dogmatic theology, with its endless complexities and metaphysical subtleties, as yet was not.


Paul writes in his letters to Timothy, the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned. Those who indulged in these vain jangling he denounces as men desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor from where they affirm and he commands , but foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they engender strife .Paul is warning against a continuing revelation and against an infallible man engendering strife.

Which were the foolish questions that eventually gave life to the Holy Inquisition?
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Re: Christi Fabula: Erasmus the First Mythicist?

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Secret Alias wrote:Here is the author Noel Alexandre - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No%C3%ABl_Alexandre

https://books.google.com/books?id=4fbeB ... ch&f=false

There we have it. Mythicism has a martyr! You'd think this could be turned into a symbol or an emblem to sell T-shirts even a saint's day!
From whence the intolerance springs.
The Excommunication of Baruch Spinoza


The Decree of Anathema
On July 27, 1 656, Baruch Spinoza was excommunicated from the Jewish community of Amsterdam. Rabbi Isaac de Fonseca Aboab read the words of judgment which expelled Spinoza at the age of twenty-four from his fellows :

The chiefs of the council do you to wit, that having long known the evil opinions and works of Baruch de Spinoza, they have endeavored by divers ways and promises to withdraw him from his evil ways, and they are unable to find a remedy, but on the contrary have had every day more knowledge of the abominable heresies practised and taught by him, and of other enormities committed by him, and have of this many trustworthy witnesses who have deposed and borne witness in the presence of the said Espinoza, and by whom he stood convicted. . . .

With the judgment of the angels and of the saints we excommunicate, cut off, curse and anathematize Baruch de Spinoza, with the consent of the elders and of all this holy congregation, ... with the anathema wherewith Joshua cursed Jericho, with the curse which Elisha laid upon the children, and with all the curses which are written in the law. Cursed be he by day and cursed be he by night. Cursed be he in sleeping and cursed be he in waking, . . . . The Lord shall not pardon him, . • • • The Lord shall destroy his name under the sun, . . . .

And we warn you, that none may speak with him by word of mouth, nor by writing, nor show any favor to him, nor be under one roof with him, nor come within four cubits of him, nor read any paper composed or written by him.l

https://rosswolfe.files.wordpress.com/2 ... ralism.pdf
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