On The Road To Jerusalem
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:14 pm
On The Road To Jerusalem
JW:
I think this Thread has established by now that "angry" is likely original to 1:41. For all those who have not
been following closely/need points sharply explained, the best evidence is as follows:
Secret Mark:
Secret Mark Fragments
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Nota Ben = I'm adding a new feature to my posts in dishonor of Donald Trump/Neil Godfree. A requirement that I include at the end the one best piece of contra evidence. The primary disputed claim I make here is that "Mark" (author) deliberately used an inclusio technique of using the same word at the beginning and ending of connected narrative in order to give that narrative an emotional flavor. "Mark" may have done this in places without explicitly using the offending word and that could explain its occurrence in rare Manuscripts. A few manuscripts add "angry" to 1:41 because everyone would agree that the surrounding text describes Jesus as angry.
Joseph
The Combination of Extreme Criticism of Israel & Avoidance of Criticism of Palestinian Terrorism
JW:
I think this Thread has established by now that "angry" is likely original to 1:41. For all those who have not
been following closely/need points sharply explained, the best evidence is as follows:
- 1) Ehrman's analysis of the surrounding Internal evidence.
2) The Transcriptional evidence of "Matthew"/"Luke".
3) And as the Brits say, the cruncher, the emotion of angry at the beginning and ending of Jesus' supposed
Galilean Ministry, is a demonstrated literary technique of the author.
Secret Mark:
Secret Mark Fragments
I note with interest that this is at the beginning of The Way to Jerusalem:And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And, coming, she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, “Son of David, have mercy on me.” But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her into the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb.
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And at the end of the way to Jerusalem:32 And they were on the way, going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus was going before them: and they were amazed; and they that followed were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them the things that were to happen unto him,
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11:16 looks like a reference to Romans 9:13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for it was not the season of figs.
14 And he answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit from thee henceforward for ever. And his disciples heard it.
15 And they come to Jerusalem: and he entered into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and them that bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money-changers, and the seats of them that sold the doves;
16 and he would not suffer that any man should carry a vessel through the temple.
Upon arrival in Jerusalem the text describes Jesus as angry. So if Secret Mark is original Jesus is angry at the beginning and ending (with some stretching) of The Way to Jerusalem. The offending word "angry" though is not in GMark here, even though as demonstrated above, Jesus is described as angry. Was the concluding "angry" in Secret Mark?What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction:
Nota Ben = I'm adding a new feature to my posts in dishonor of Donald Trump/Neil Godfree. A requirement that I include at the end the one best piece of contra evidence. The primary disputed claim I make here is that "Mark" (author) deliberately used an inclusio technique of using the same word at the beginning and ending of connected narrative in order to give that narrative an emotional flavor. "Mark" may have done this in places without explicitly using the offending word and that could explain its occurrence in rare Manuscripts. A few manuscripts add "angry" to 1:41 because everyone would agree that the surrounding text describes Jesus as angry.
Joseph
The Combination of Extreme Criticism of Israel & Avoidance of Criticism of Palestinian Terrorism