The best case for Jesus's historicity: Mark Craig

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If a Galilean was crucified and his death martyred as a sacrifice in the temple by Hellenist, what textual religious evidence would or could we expect to see???????????????

Exactly what we have 100%, in exactly the same evolution of traditions we see 100%.

Not one shred of evidence is out of place in the context the traditions originated and evolved.
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The Text Excavation website by Ben Smith says:
A .pdf file of the fragments of Thallus is available from Christian Hospitality.
http://www.textexcavation.com/thallustestimonium.html

It provides a link, but unfortunately the link is down. It would be nice to have, though.

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rakovsky wrote: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:08 pm The Text Excavation website by Ben Smith says:
A .pdf file of the fragments of Thallus is available from Christian Hospitality.
http://www.textexcavation.com/thallustestimonium.html

It provides a link, but unfortunately the link is down. It would be nice to have, though.
The Christian Hospitality site went down a long time ago. But see attached for what I think was the file they offered. It is not much: just three scanned pages from Jacoby (I think), and not OCR.

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Thanks.
Richard Carrier writes in his essay on Thallus:
For a thorough and still essential and illuminating discussion of this passage,
see Felix Jacoby,
Fragmente der griechischen Historiker
(Leiden: Brill, 1954), § 256 (Thallus) and § 257 (Phlegon). For a translation and commentary of Jacoby’s §
256, see Richard Carrier, ‘Jacoby and Müller on “Thallus”’,
The Secular Web (1999) at http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ ... acoby.html .

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