Marcion Isn't a Slam Dunk for Mythicists
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Re: Marcion Isn't a Slam Dunk for Mythicists
As a parallel to what Tertullian writes about 'Christ Jesus' descending at the beginning of the gospel compare Against All Heresies "In fact, they say that Jesus Christ descended, that is, that the dove came down on Jesus;66 and, since the dove is styled by the Greek name peristera (peristera), it has in itself this number DCCCI
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― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
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Re: Marcion Isn't a Slam Dunk for Mythicists
Secret Alias wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:14 pm As a parallel to what Tertullian writes about 'Christ Jesus' descending at the beginning of the gospel compare Against All Heresies "In fact, they say that Jesus Christ descended[8394], that is, that the dove came down on Jesus;[8395], a, b and, since the dove is styled by the Greek name peristera (peristera), it has in itself this number DCCCI"
= CHAP. V.--MARCUS AND COLARBASUS - http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/t ... ian19.html
right after - "for this was why Christ said, 'I am the Alpha and the Omega'."
a Irenaeus Adv Haers. 1.7.2
b Tertullian Adv Valentinianos 2, 3, & 27 - (+/- others)
[8394] Denique Jesum Christum descendisse. So Oehler, who does not notice any conjectural emendation, or various reading, of the words. If correct, his reading would refer to the views of a twofold Jesus Christ--a real and a phantasmal one--held by docetic Gnostics, or to such views as Valentine's, in whose system, so far as it is ascertainable from the confused and discrepant account of it, there would appear to have been one Æon called Christ, another called Jesus, and a human person called Jesus and Christ, with whom the true Jesus associated Himself. Some such jumble of ideas the two heretics now under review would seem to have held, if Oehler's be the true reading. But the difficulties are somewhat lessened if we accept the very simple emendation which naturally suggests itself, and which, I see, Semler has proposed and Routh inclines to receive, "in Jesum Christum descendisse," i.e. "that Christ descended on Jesus" *.
[8395] See Matthew 3:13-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22; John 1:29-34.
http://biblehub.com/library/tertullian/ ... rbasus.htm
* P. J. Temple says the same thing in The Boyhood Consciousness of Christ: A Critical Examination of Luke ii.49
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