Yep Acts 13 does give the show away.Joseph D. L. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:05 am I agree that figures, historical or otherwise, are being divided threefold and fourfold, and vise versa. In fact a perfect example of this is in Acts, chapter 13. That chapter alone gave the show away for me. It revealed the underlying mechanics of how the tradition(s) worked. It's effectively a big knot of disparate threads.
Price has a chapter titled 'The Secret of Simon Magus', and he mentions Acts 13 there, and Marcion, Josephus's mention of a Simon who Price thinks is Simon Magus, and the pseudo-Celmentine Recognitions.
Here are some snippets -
Simon Magus sounds like a polemical caricature of Paul in the canonical Acts of the Apostles.
When Justin Martyr and others make Simon Magus the father of Gnosticism, do we not see a reflection of the fact that Gnostics hailed Paul as the founder of their faith? ...
F. C. Baur argued Simon Magus appears to have been a kind of satirical vilification of Paul.
Hermann Detering, in The Falsified Paul, carries F. C. Baur’s hypothesis a step further to turn the theory on its head. What if Simon Magus was the historical figure, and instead of Simon being the fun-house mirror reflection, Paul was the fictive character? What if Paul is a theological rendering of Simon? It appears that there actually was a Simon Magus, about whom some information survives in Josephus’s Antiquities of the Jews [20.7.2].
Simon Magus is said by later writers to have come from Gitta, which is in Samaria but could have been confused with Kittim, the sea peoples of Cyprus. Josephus characterized the Samaritans in one instance as “Sidonians [Phoenicians] in Shechem” (12.4.5), which pretty much closes the gap. And, remember, Gitta was originally the Philistine city called Gath, the home town of Goliath.
.. Acts 13 looks like a clumsy attempt to untangle Paul from someone closer to Simon, a Catholicizing attempt to exorcize all that was later perceived as unorthodox in Paul in order to sanitize him for popular consumption.
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.. Acts 13:9 says simply, “But Saul, who is also Paul” and leaves it ambiguous whether Saul received a second name, Paul, to be used henceforth, or whether he, like Sergius Paul (proconsul of Cyprus), was already generally called Paul. The Saul character literally morphs into Paul before the reader’s eyes in a demonstration that the author has probably created a fictional opponent for Simon Magus, Paul’s alter ago.
At the same time, in a narrative game of musical chairs, Acts’s author drives a wedge between Paul, the ideal orthodox hero, and Simon Magus, the hero’s shadow and Saul’s historical prototype. The story drops an important hint by telling us that the name Paul was secondary. I think his name may have been Simon, and when the Paul persona was spun off into a separate character, the redactor preserved the original consonant. In musical chairs, the whistle blows and the players drop into place, Saul sitting in Sergius Paul’s chair and henceforth bearing his name, and Elymas, or Simon Magus, sitting in a chair he had been sharing with Saul. Sergius may be sitting in a chair that was originally engraved with the name of Felix.
Or perhaps it would be better to say that Felix is sitting in Sergius’s chair to conceal the particulars of the story of Simon, Felix, and Drusilla. Josephus intimates that Simon was originally a mystagogical guru. The scene of Paul’s audience before Felix and Drusilla in Acts 24 is a doublet of his appearance before Herod Agrippa II (Marcus Julius Agrippa) and sister-wife Berenice in Acts 25-26.
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The Gospel of John is heavily Marcionite: Moses and the Jews knew nothing of God. Despite all that Deuteronomy says about Moses seeing God face to face, John denies that any mortal has ever seen the true God (John 1:18). Jesus’s Father is not the same God the Jews worship (8:54-55).
... the composition of Gospels, being rewrites of the Old Testament, was a counterblast to the Marcionite rejection of the Old Testament. Once the trend began, Marcionites made their own contributions to it, and thus to the process of historicizing an originally mythic Jesus.[57] Marcion himself, then, had no Gospel. It must have been subsequent Marcionites who ascribed the choice of one to him. Even the invidious contrast, always attributed to Marcion, between the Twelve and Paul must be a later apologetic since it presupposes a late redefinition of the originally unrestricted apostolate to an exclusive dozen.
Price, Robert M.. The Amazing Colossal Apostle: The Search for the Historical Paul (Kindle Location 3962-4511). Signature Books. Kindle Edition.
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