If you hate her, send her away, reads the chabad.org translation.
That is what Hillel and the triple talaq were saying .
16.If you hate [her], send [her] away, says the Lord God of Israel. For injustice shall cover his garment, said the Lord of Hosts, but you shall beware of your spirit, and do not deal treacherously. http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... rashi=true
KJV https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Malachi-2-16/
“For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.” Malachi 2:16
I think this argument is demolished by Rekhavi above.
You know in spite of all you gained, you still have to stand out in the pouring rain.
John2 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:31 pm
iskander wrote:
If you hate her, send her away, reads the chabad.org translation.
That is what Hillel and the triple talaq were saying .
16.If you hate [her], send [her] away, says the Lord God of Israel. For injustice shall cover his garment, said the Lord of Hosts, but you shall beware of your spirit, and do not deal treacherously. http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo ... rashi=true
KJV https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Malachi-2-16/
“For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.” Malachi 2:16
I think this argument is demolished by Rekhavi above.
I think nothing is ever demolished in religion.
The bible translations admit several interpretations. The chabad translation permits putting away and the KJV and JSB place the emphasis on the wrong.
Jesus also found putting away to be unjust .The first Human Rights activist on record ?
The Jewish Study Bible ,Malachi 2:16
For I detest divorce--said the Lord, the God of Israel--- ...
Apologies, iskander. My last post was the last one I had time to send last night and I was in a rush and misunderstood your post. I thought it had something to do with Rekhavi's argument that "the Rabbanites [are] wrong and a man can only divorce his wife for a reason, and that being an 'abhorrent thing' and not upon his will that being a plea of mere hatred" re: Dt. 24:1, but now I see it was only about Mal. 2:16.
You know in spite of all you gained, you still have to stand out in the pouring rain.
After mulling on this for a couple days, it looks like the issue of divorce comes down to the meaning of ervat davar in Dt. 24:1 and that there is a spectrum of interpretation for it, with Shammai and Jesus on one end of it (only for adultery), Hillel and Akivah on the other end (more or less for any reason), and Karaites in the middle (for something pretty bad, such as adultery). And I think I fall in the middle as well but have no problem with Jesus' interpretation.
You know in spite of all you gained, you still have to stand out in the pouring rain.
John2 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:00 pm
After mulling on this for a couple days, it looks like the issue of divorce comes down to the meaning of ervat davar in Dt. 24:1 and that there is a spectrum of interpretation for it, with Shammai and Jesus on one end of it (only for adultery), Hillel and Akivah on the other end (more or less for any reason), and Karaites in the middle (for something pretty bad, such as adultery). And I think I fall in the middle as well but have no problem with Jesus' interpretation.
THE Ban of Rabbenu Gershom (R. Gershom ben Judah ofMayence, 960-1028)
The Ban of R. Gershom (who was often known also as Me'or Hagolah, 'Light of the Exile') forbade both polygamy and divorcing a woman against her will. Its promulgation brought about a revolutionary change in Ashkenazi Jewish family life and in the body of law that regulated it.
Some say that the ban was only for a limited period of time . What do you know about this , John2?
I knew nothing about R. Gershom until I saw your post. I knew that at some point polygamy had been banned in Judaism but I didn't know the details about it, and here is an informative article that discusses the impact it has had on divorce in Rabbinic Judaism.
I knew nothing about R. Gershom until I saw your post. I knew that at some point polygamy had been banned in Judaism but I didn't know the details about it, and here is an informative article that discusses the impact it has had on divorce in Rabbinic Judaism.
