Why Does Irenaeus Consistently Spell Words With EI Rather Than I?

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Re: Why Does Irenaeus Consistently Spell Words With EI Rather Than I?

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Apparently the variant Μαρκεων is attested https://books.google.com/books?id=Ow1MA ... BD&f=false
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Re: Why Does Irenaeus Consistently Spell Words With EI Rather Than I?

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This is relevant too. From W. Sidney Allen (Pronunciation of Classical Greek) says (p. 65):

"There is no strong evidence that the long and short vowels differed in quality, both being close front unrounded; and the narrow opening of the long vowel is expressly mentioned by Dionysius of Halicarnassus. The short I of Greek is thus likely to have been of a closer quality than the vowel of English 'bit'; certainly it was closer than the Latin short-i, and it is this that accounts for the fact that E rather than I is used to transcribe the Latin vowel. It was thus similar to unaccented modern Greek I (or H, U, EI, OI, etc.) or French as in vive ... The view that the Greek long vowel was more open than the short is probably mistaken." https://books.google.com/books?id=yws4Z ... 22&f=false
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Re: Why Does Irenaeus Consistently Spell Words With EI Rather Than I?

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And similarly ei sounded like eta - https://books.google.com/books?id=yws4Z ... ei&f=false I have to admit I find this very confusing.
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Re: Why Does Irenaeus Consistently Spell Words With EI Rather Than I?

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Because the rule is I before E except after C.

Consequently, there MUST be an invisible "C" before Irenaeus' EIs, which surely can be made visible by a goodly amount of mental efforts shot off without much of an attempt at coordinating them into a unified theory.

Proceed ... :popcorn:
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